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Walmart Liberator A/T (yet another tire question)

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I'm Sorry in advance for MORE tire talk, but here it goes. Wally has 31-10.5-15s for under $80 b4 tax, and as Josh and Curt can vouch I desperately need more traction. So, if you have run these what were/are your inpressions? Do they air down well? Does honor the warranty on off-road damage? Please no "I hate them because there not (INSERT BRAND HERE)!" answers.

TIA, -r0
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You might want to look at mastercraft tires, there cheaper than 80 a tire and they have MT's and AT's. more bang for the buck, I believe they are re badge coopers... just a thought if money is tight. I think I got mine for 48 bucks a tire locally.
 
HiTec retreads are even cheaper, especially if you self mount and balance. My HF manual tire mounting machine has more than paid for itself.
 
Don't do it! How would you like to get payed $5 an hour so that others can save some money on some ghetto tires. There is more than the asking price on those tires to think about.
 
i say dont doo it buy tires from some where else. damn dude walmart sucks ass! id say save up money and buy a good set thats worth it sted of wasting money on something that is cheep and will prolly wear out very fast
 
well let me make a more oppropriat opinion.. besides the fact that walmart is dumb... i dont know how they do but they are cheep. cheep tires useally arnt worth the money. they wont last long. like i said save up money until you can buy what you want insted of buying whats cheap. personnaly i think you should reserch the tire more before you make a decition.. but i say no
 
price matching doesn't hold up: for a set of 4 31-10.5-15s
master craft courser c/t : 440 installed local
Hi-Tec MT: 505 delivered (zone 6!)
wally A/T: 360 installed w/road hazard (replacements at like 3 million locations)

PapaPump: I don't like the fact that wally kills competition either but the tire monkeys I know there are making about $8.50/h. There are weeks my neighbor makes more than I do as a Novell/M$ network specialist!

Has anyone run these tires???
 
i dont know man, honestly i had these tires when I was in highschool and i was too cheap to buy BFG ATs. There were great tires for what they were. They did just fine off road, nothing to scream about, sucked in the mud, but what non-mud specific tire does well in the mud.

I got over 70k miles on a set of these tires as well. They wear very well as a road tire. They do lose their off road grip quickly once you put 40k miles on them though.
 
JAGx1414 said:
well let me make a more oppropriat opinion.. besides the fact that walmart is dumb... i dont know how they do but they are cheep. cheep tires useally arnt worth the money. they wont last long. like i said save up money until you can buy what you want insted of buying whats cheap. personnaly i think you should reserch the tire more before you make a decition.. but i say no

So, what would your opinion be if they were no-names from www.4x4KicksA$$.com???

I agree WallyCorp sux!:rattle:
 
sintax said:
i dont know man, honestly i had these tires when I was in highschool and i was too cheap to buy BFG ATs. There were great tires for what they were. They did just fine off road, nothing to scream about, sucked in the mud, but what non-mud specific tire does well in the mud.

I got over 70k miles on a set of these tires as well. They wear very well as a road tire. They do lose their off road grip quickly once you put 40k miles on them though.

GREAT POST!!! thanks for not going into how WallyCorp killed your first pet.

anyone elso with an opinion on the product and not the company???
 
I ran those tires quite a while back (5 years ago) when I first put on my RE 4in lift. I didnt have them on for too long, about year, I didnt think they were bad. When I sold them they still had really good tread, aired down pretty good, and desent grip in the dirt. The only negative I remember was they squealed when they were pushed around a corner, they never lost traction, just made noise.


I only sold them because i got a really good deal on a set 33x9.50 BFG muds. The friend that bought them never had a bad thing say, I think they lasted him almost 3 years.
 
I used those exact tires on my Chevy K-1500 4X4 while patrolling the desert near Las Vegas. I am the rare law enforcement officer that is allowed to furnish the vehicle of my choice. I found that the Wally World warrantee was followed to the letter. I found that I was breaking the sidewall of at least 1 tire per month on sharp rocks. The off-road traction was great. The highway performance was great. The price was right. The replacement warranty always honored. It was just the down-time of going in to Wally World about once a month and getting a new one put on. I even went to carrying two spares. I never got more than 5,000 total miles out of any one of the Liberators. I sold the K-1500 at 100,000 miles and bought a 2000 XJ Liberty. I promptly put on BFG A-Ts with 3 ply side-walls after the "lift" and have never had another tire problem in 20,000 miles. I have been in at least two across desert pursuits with the BFGs. No problem!
 
I am pretty sure that the Liberators are made under the MAST (Michelin America Small Tires) system. MAST is one of the big producers of private label tires along with Cooper. If you buy a "house brand" tire odds are good that they are from Michelin/BFG or Cooper. That being said, the Liberators are okay ATs for the price. Don't expect gnarly sidewall strength and much self cleaning in the mud. The couple sets I have driven on got loud fast and didn't wear as well as other AT tires.

Wally's also sells the BFG Land Terrain for ten bucks more. That tire is nothing more than the old BFG Trail T/A that was popular back in the late 80s. They have 2 ply sidewalls, but wore like iron even on heavy trucks. I had a set of those in 35x12.50 on a Chebby 1/2 ton and they were good balance for DD and mild dry weather wheeling.

You might want to look into BFG ATs at Costco. I have bought a couple sets from them and they have always had the best installed price on 31s and a good no questions asked rotate/balance/flat repair/road hazard. The last time I bought them they were running 117 each installed, but that was a few years ago and out on the left coast.

Economists have been recently theorizing that Wal-Mart by itself is responsible for keeping inflation in check in the United States. Customer service is dead; long live Wal-Mart.
 
I actually use the tires on my wife's DD XJ. I send her to work, and she hauls my kids to school on them. So technically, I put my wife and kids lives on these tires.

But honestly, they aren't an off-road tire, not even close. Makes a great road tire, works good here in the mixed climate we have in IL. But they can't compare to my MT's anywhere off road.


BTW, just to preface my comments, I'm a Wally World shareholder.



Marc, you have a pm on the HF tire machine.
 
I ran them on both of my Jeeps and loved them. I couldn't find them in the Wal-Mart here so I had to get a diffrent set of tires this time. Oh well. They worked great everywhere for me but in the rain. The wet traction on these tires sucks. Wal-Mart does just fine in their warranty. I got a nail stuck in one while on the trail. Slaped the spare on stoped by Wal Mart on the way home took in my paper work with the muddy arse tire and they changed it for me right there. (Nail was to close to the sidewall). If I could find them around here I would run them. Oh I also got about 50K miles out of them before I needed a new set. Now I run Desert Dog A/Ts and they work alright to. My neighbor had a set sitting behind his house with 1000miles on them and sold them to me for 40 bucks just to get rid of them. Best 40 bucks I've ever spent.
 
ok roll-over. go to a local tire shop and ask them who would make the wal-mart brand tires. $10 says they're made in china. if you actually really wheel with them than you'll be sorry....

heres my terrible experience with wallie world: so i'm down at wal mart one day running some errands, and i see that they have the new bfg at-ko's. turns out a 31" tire is about $5-10 cheaper then what i've seen elswhere. so i get 4. salesman asks me if i want the roadside assistance. i say no-they already have a warrenty from bfg, and my 235's were pretty bombproof; i beat the hell out of them offroad, and the only problem i eventually had was a slow leak in 1 tire(prolly the damaged rim)
after my first wheeling trip since the 8.8 conversion and the tires, i noticed that there was a sizable bulge/cut in the outer sidewall of one, and the corner of the tread was rounded off a bit on all the tires (my old bfg's never did this). i stopped at a tire shop about a week later to see if they could possibly fix the cut, and i got "enlightened" .
now here's the kicker: it turns out that the wal-mart bfg's have a special part number. bfg doesn't honor their warranty for these. they are the only "bfg" tires made in CHINA. for wal mart. it turns ou that i was not the first person in this pickle that the tire shop owner had explained this to.....



Big Cholla said:
I used those exact tires on my Chevy K-1500 4X4 while patrolling the desert near Las Vegas. I am the rare law enforcement officer that is allowed to furnish the vehicle of my choice. I found that the Wally World warrantee was followed to the letter. I found that I was breaking the sidewall of at least 1 tire per month on sharp rocks. The off-road traction was great. The highway performance was great. The price was right. The replacement warranty always honored. It was just the down-time of going in to Wally World about once a month and getting a new one put on. I even went to carrying two spares. I never got more than 5,000 total miles out of any one of the Liberators. I sold the K-1500 at 100,000 miles and bought a 2000 XJ Liberty. I promptly put on BFG A-Ts with 3 ply side-walls after the "lift" and have never had another tire problem in 20,000 miles. I have been in at least two across desert pursuits with the BFGs. No problem!

a concurr about the bfg part. i used to live/work out there, used to go down to stoddard ohv, etc. & 'open her up'. can't see why your choice wasn't an xj though-with a good 3" lift, it seemed almost too comfortable at blasting through the desert.........
 
xuv-this said:
can't see why your choice wasn't an xj though

He does have a XJ... the Liberty didn't come out until 2002. Maybe he has a Freedom edition XJ?
 
xuv-this said:
if you actually really wheel with them than you'll be sorry....


had them wheeled with them loved them (I.E. Not sorry I bought them). I just can't see spending over 100 bucks a tire when by the nature of the stuff we do they tire has a pretty good chance of getting destroyed. This way I have a cheap tire (that actually worked better than the shitty BFG A/T KO's I recently had) that I'm not afraid of destroying and Wal-Mart always honored their tire protection plan (though I can think of only 3 instance where I had to use it twice on the street with nails and a third on the trail) I even brought them a tire on the way back from the trail I was running my spare. They changed it right there for me no questions asked (they didn't have to the tire and rim were covered in mud).
 
i own a set of the walmart bfg land terrains, they're made in the usa. they have the dot stamp on them, and they say that they're made in the usa. i own one liberator, which i use as my spare. i haven't really paid much attention to it, but it's a decent tire. i'll be sure to check tomorrow if it's made in the usa. i have a feeling it is.
 
I ran them on an old 1/2 ton chevy i had and loved them. I did not wheel them but they held up great on that truck I got almost 60k mile on them and sold the truck with them still on there and they still had good tread.
 
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