So Who's Showing Up???

[Willis]

Just curious...

I'll be there one way or another...

Steve

[verrive]

I'll be there if I can get a damn permission slip signed :P As well may need someone to follow on the highway, despite the fact I live less than an hour away I've never been to Naches.

- Kevin

[railroadjeep]

We'll have to see what state of disrepair the XJ is in at that point. Once the new axles are in, and a SYE/DS is added I should be a go, it's the little random surprises that concern me...:D

[JJ13]

I will be there...in a Toyota tercel, or a 2wd Tahoe

[XJourney]

I am going. 3.5 months left and I have alot of work to do.

[ECKSJAY]

I'll shotgun/spot for someone if they'd like. At 260lbs I'm great ballast for a potential rolling situation. :D I'm also an excellent cook, have my own tent/gear, handy with tools, can hold my liquor, and am a great photographer. :D:D

My XJ won't be trailable (is that a word?) by then but I'm planning a FBI (Friends/Brothers/In-Laws) trip to the 'Con in October...so it'll be ready for that one.

ecksjay@comcast.net if anyone would like the services mentioned above. I'd really like to come along and meet folks. I'll pick up some of your favorite beverage, too. :D :piratefla

[JJ13]

I'll shotgun/spot for someone if they'd like. At 260lbs I'm great ballast for a potential rolling situation. :D I'm also an excellent cook, have my own tent/gear, handy with tools, can hold my liquor, and am a great photographer. :D:D

My XJ won't be trailable (is that a word?) by then but I'm planning a FBI (Friends/Brothers/In-Laws) trip to the 'Con in October...so it'll be ready for that one.

ecksjay@comcast.net if anyone would like the services mentioned above. I'd really like to come along and meet folks. I'll pick up some of your favorite beverage, too. :D :piratefla

LMAO...did Ecksjay just volunteer to be someones trail bitch????

[ECKSJAY]

LMAO...did Ecksjay just volunteer to be someones trail bitch????

That's MR. Trail Bitch to you! :anon: WITH beer! :cheers:

[Matt98XJ]

I'm moving up to the Bellingham area next month. How far is Naches from there? I'll be ready to go by then.

[verrive]

I'm moving up to the Bellingham area next month. How far is Naches from there? I'll be ready to go by then.

Bellingham is roughly 230 miles away from Naches quite a drive but it could be fun :D Am I am the closest out of everyone? I'm like 40 miles away. Btw Ecksjay you may have to be careful I remembered reading this in the event rules:
Alcoholic beverages and other controlled substances are prohibited while driving on or off-road. This includes consumption prior to an Event. Failure to comply will result in dismissal from the Event and probable termination of Membership.

:P

[ECKSJAY]

Btw Ecksjay you may have to be careful I remembered reading this in the event rules:
Alcoholic beverages and other controlled substances are prohibited while driving on or off-road. This includes consumption prior to an Event. Failure to comply will result in dismissal from the Event and probable termination of Membership.

:P


Hmm, I thought those were my rules. ;) Well aware of the rules...and they're my own personal views anyway. We don't drink on the trail, we save it for camp when the wheelin's done.

[Willis]

I'm moving up to the Bellingham area next month. How far is Naches from there? I'll be ready to go by then.

Hans (PNW01XJ) will be coming from Lynden (on the Canadian boarder). Maybe you guys could caravan?

[XJourney]

Yea Matt98XJ I live about 10 Miles North of Bellingham. I would be glad to have you follow my tailights all the way down. :moon:

[Matt98XJ]

Sure, I don't know how to get there anyway.

[ECKSJAY]

D'oh, screwed around and got some stuff. Jeep is sitting in a friend's shop right now awaiting wheel bearings/spindles, new calipers, rotors, and ball joints. Gee, if I screw around enough I might actually be able to drive myself. :D Glad for this warmer weather though...

[Motornoggin]

I should be there, but I have a question. It is scheduled for two days, so is that two days on the trail with a stop for the night, or do we set up a base camp somewhere, go out and come back for the night? I need to know if I am bringing my tent or my tent trailer.

[Willis]

No, we'll have a 'base camp' of sorts at one of the local camping areas. There are a lot of different trails there, so we'll kinda split up in the morning. I plan to show up Friday afternoon/evening. The trial rides will most likely start between 8 and 9 AM. So, if you show up Saturday morning, it probably won't give you much time to set up camp.

Steve

[ECKSJAY]

Hey Steve, if I drive I'll end up out there about noon on Friday if anyone wants to roll out with me. I plan on stringing up my hammock and snoozing until people start getting there. ;)

What are we doing for comms? I've got a CB and FRS. :yap:

I'm definitely getting 90% of my front end rebuilt this morning. Can't wait! :roll:

[ECKSJAY]

Got home a little while ago. Front end is 'almost' done. Need gears installed next month and I'll put the axle shafts back in with new u-joints and install new ball joints while it's all apart. Then we swap the rear end, reinforce the 'frame' rails with 3x3 angle, gusset the RE drop brackets, and install the crossmember/skid I built a while back. Looks like I'll be busy, but ready!!! ;)

[Motornoggin]

That's good to know. We should be there late Fri afternoon.
Is there gonna be a map posted?

[Willis]

I'm having a tough time finding an on-line map of Naches. If I find anything, I'll post it.

I know some of our members have maps. Maybe we can get some scanned. They probaby won't turn out that well though.

Steve

[Motornoggin]

That's ok. Good directions will do.

[verrive]

Out of curiosity for anyone that's been there before, what's a decent minimum requirement for getting through generally anything there? I running 31"s now with D35 w/ LSD/Locker in rear and might change to D44 with a LSD/Locker. Would I do decent through most of it?

- Kevin

[ECKSJAY]

Out of curiosity for anyone that's been there before, what's a decent minimum requirement for getting through generally anything there? I running 31"s now with D35 w/ LSD/Locker in rear and might change to D44 with a LSD/Locker. Would I do decent through most of it?

- Kevin

You should be just fine. Last time I ran the trail I completed 95% with a 2" BB and 30x9.50 BFG ATs and a front locker.

[staticrevolution]

You can scratch me down for the event for sure! Can't wait to meet fellow cherokee owners and see the rigs! Maybe I can get my axles regear by then and those 33's. If anyone has any 33's for sale semi-locally let me know, I have plenty of lift, a big hammer and a sawzall. If anyone needs any help wrenching before the event I would be MORE than happy to come and help! Looking really forward to this! Dont really want to bring the GF so I may need someone to ride shotgun with a shotgun. Can I invite a buddy with a YJ? Anyways will continue this discussion until the day... Take care everyone!

Alan

[staticrevolution]

I think I just answered my own question:

"It will be open to all XJ/MJ owners ( member or not), and any other vehicles (CJs, Broncos, etc) with member invitation."

So I have to become a member to invite a YJ owner? Sounds fair.

Alan

[JJ13]

Membership=good. As far as passengers. I know I am thumbing a ride... (my XJ somehow turned into a new house for me and my wife :huh: ). I beleive Ecksjay is thumbing a ride as well (he even volunteered do be your personal trail bitch for the weekend in exchange for a ride) :yelclap:.

[ECKSJAY]

Membership=good. As far as passengers. I know I am thumbing a ride... (my XJ somehow turned into a new house for me and my wife :huh: ). I beleive Ecksjay is thumbing a ride as well (he even volunteered do be your personal trail bitch for the weekend in exchange for a ride) :yelclap:.

Congrats on the house. As for my being a bitch, check the bottom of Page 1. :looser: Looks like YOU might be MY bitch. ;) I like Kokanee or Labatt Blue. :D

[staticrevolution]

Could mean that you are now living in your Cherokee with your wife. :D

Alan

[CW]

I'll be there if I can get my junk road trip worthy.

[staticrevolution]

I think I just answered my own question:

"It will be open to all XJ/MJ owners ( member or not), and any other vehicles (CJs, Broncos, etc) with member invitation."

So I have to become a member to invite a YJ owner? Sounds fair.

Alan


CHECK :thumbup: :new: :NAXJA: member

[cherokeekid]

Might show up if I knew when it was :dunno:

[ECKSJAY]

Might show up if I knew when it was :dunno:

*sigh* Out of the Army and I'm still babysitting Marines. ;) In the PNW Chapter section (where this thread is located) there is a thread called "Event Information." Here's a hint, Mike. :moon: http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21874

:anon:

:cheers:

[cherokeekid]

*sigh* Out of the Army and I'm still babysitting Marines. ;) In the PNW Chapter section (where this thread is located) there is a thread called "Event Information." Here's a hint, Mike. :moon: http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21874

:anon:

:cheers:

Yeah I cn't actually see that thread unless I link to it.

I did see it was on the main forum lists. I guess I just assumed with such a large event it would be easier to see the event info.

I think I'll be at the Rubicon then anyways or just getting back.

(lucky for you guys you'll actually be able to get some sleep :piratefla )

[ECKSJAY]

Yeah I cn't actually see that thread unless I link to it.

I did see it was on the main forum lists. I guess I just assumed with such a large event it would be easier to see the event info.



I still don't follow ya...but oh well. ;) The one thing I've never been confused with is a brain surgeon. :lecture:

[Dawg Cherokee]

I'll probably get in late Saturday and be there for Sunday wheelin' only. Half a weekend is better than none. I'm looking forward to sseing the people and their rigs.

[yellowxj00]

I take it may be a little tough for a stocker to ride this trail. I've owned my XJ for a little over a year now (former CJ owner) and can't decide how much lift I want. If there is room for a stocker how do I get to Naches, I've only been in WA since October 03. And I'm still figuring out were everything is at.

[ECKSJAY]

I take it may be a little tough for a stocker to ride this trail. I've owned my XJ for a little over a year now (former CJ owner) and can't decide how much lift I want. If there is room for a stocker how do I get to Naches, I've only been in WA since October 03. And I'm still figuring out were everything is at.

I'll hook you up with more info later...but FWIW I ran it before with a 2" BB and 30" ATs. Stock might be a little 'fun', but you don't have to do everything that the rest of us do. :) Someone has to take pics of us being goofballs. :D

[yellowxj00]

Video or Still? 35MM or Digital? I've never been at an event like this. What fees are involved and do I have to make any reservations for a campground? Any info will help.
Thanks.

[afjeep2082]

Hey, I might be able to show up I'll be home (portland) on leave during that time....how far is it from portland BTW? Just hope I can get my new engine in and broke in by that time :greensmok

[argalaviz]

I have been directed to this thread. I'll be there with a non-member in his XJ. Mine is dead...

We will likely be "camping" in his big ole RV.

Any help you official types need give me a yell.

[ladywolf]

If you guys havent forgotten, i can give you guys directions to naches:D It depends on if you want to run white or chinook pass......for those of you in south western wa, its easy, just head over white pass. for those of you northern wa, head over snoqualmie, south to yakima, then hit the whitepass/naches exit to go back north.....and just follow the road:D a good place to eat is the gold creek station up on chinook......little spendy but GREAT food.......also state campground about 5 miles up the road from there, good camping, right next to the river, 5 mins from the trailheads. wish i could be there guys.

Kris

[2xtreme]

I will be there with my jeep, I will probably drag at least one other friend and his truck along (Land Rover Discovery), possibly others.

I have done the Naches several times as well as a few other trails in the area. A stock rig should be fine as long as you are experienced with the truck and you are not "scared of damage" the lower you are the more likely, however, I believe it is more than doable.

Any plans yet for where wer are starting (which side of the pass) and where we are camping? I assume that someone will reserve a large area for us?

I look forward to meeting as many people as possible in the area,

I also will be coming from the North (Marysville) and would not mind car pooling with any others coming from north of me.

Michael

[dellstopjeep]

I think me and another fellow naxja user bigpimpinben will be there. We still have to make are jeeps meet requirements but they shouldnt be a prolem. Still deciding where to put tow hooks on the fron of my jeep tho. I only have a 4.5 inch lift and 31's, have no lockers and might have gears but not a guarantee. Plus im only 18 so i havent had the experience wheeling most of you have. Will these be suitiable for the trip or is this a little out of my league?

[2xtreme]

You shouldn't have any issues with 4.5" lift. Personally I believe this trail is very do-able with stock cherokee as long as you have a tow strap and decent tread tires and some experience (skid plates are always nice).

Just make sure you get some tow points on the front (not just tow hooks, Just want to make sure you are aware that they need to be re-inforced!! If you are not sure what I meet do a search or e-mail me back chanel on tow hooks).

[John90XJ]

Plus im only 18 so i havent had the experience wheeling most of you have.

You might be surprised.......
:cool:

[ladywolf]

dell, depending on which trails they decide to run (make sure yall run the funny rocks!!!) it wont be too bad....i've watched 14/15 year old kids drive dad's jeep up and around, and they didnt do too bad....just make sure someone's got a good chainsaw in case the eastern guys havent ran the trails in awhile, and ya need to clear away a tree or two. other than that, you guys might not be able to make a fire, depends on how high the fire danger is.....have fun guys, ecksjay, make sure to take lots of pics for me, i'm pissed that i cant make it! Be safe, guys, and take care!

Kris

p.s. if you guys need a trail guide or anything, i might be able to convince my brother to head on up....he knows the area/trails fairly well.

[cherokeekid]

...just make sure someone's got a good chainsaw in case the eastern guys havent ran the trails in awhile, and ya need to clear away a tree or two.


ummm,... you're joking right?

[ECKSJAY]

ummm,... you're joking right?


Fallen trees too high to go over, too low to go under, not ones growing in the middle of the trail. BTDT, wished I had a saw.

[USP40_HK]

Fallen trees too high to go over, too low to go under, not ones growing in the middle of the trail. BTDT, wished I had a saw.

Careful there Philonious, it might be a trap. Remember the blackberry bush incident, what, a year and a half ago? :roflmao: (When we going shooting again?)
For what it's worth guys, we do this all the time on the dry side. Just make sure there are no burn bans in effect or the local Shire-Reeve will come knocking. :nono: Chainsaws aren't exactly the safest things to use when the forests are drier than newspaper, and we don't go light on fines. Dangerous times to be about. Ladywolf, keep outta harm's way, you hear? :us:

[ladywolf]

No prob USP.....i was just mentioning the chainsaw because some of the places are really tight and turning around/backing up is not really an option. its also courteous to the other trail guys. trees fall all the time, and sometimes they block the trails, so normally we'll cut 'em up and move em far enuf outta the way to continue on our way. USP, where in eastern Wa are you? I'm from just south of the yakima valley. family members belong to the lower valley canyon crawlers....if ya've heard of em.

Kris

[Anozireth]

I'm definitely interested in the trip if it isn't too late to get in. I've got an 87 XJ, 6" RE/KOR long-arm lift, 33s, warn M8000, have lockers and 4.56s just waiting to get installed, and several other goodies.

[cherokeekid]

No prob USP.....i was just mentioning the chainsaw because some of the places are really tight and turning around/backing up is not really an option. its also courteous to the other trail guys. trees fall all the time, and sometimes they block the trails, so normally we'll cut 'em up and move em far enuf outta the way to continue on our way. USP, where in eastern Wa are you? I'm from just south of the yakima valley. family members belong to the lower valley canyon crawlers....if ya've heard of em.

Kris

I thought I misread your original post, I hope you aren't falling trees that aren't already "dead falls" is what I meant.

But I wouldn't ever cut down a tree just because I was having a hard time turning around.

[JJ13]

I can bring a saw if it is still needed. As long as my work doesn't go to a new shift configuration before then (they are talking about starting a weekend shift of 3-13's on fri. Sat. and Sun.). Seeing as it is a union place and I am low man, I will have no choice but to take the weekend shift. Hopefully it won't happen before the weekend of the Northwest Fest.

[Willis]

Just got back from Naches today. I'll call the forestry service to see about reserving an area we looked at on Monday. Hope it's not reserved, it was perfect for what we need.

We'll be located close to hwy 410, though the exact location is not set in stone yet.

There will be plenty to do for all vehicles from stock to hardcore. We'll try to keep the groups rather small. 10 vehicles is about perfect, but we'll see how it goes.

I remind everyone to check the "Event Information" thread I just sent BTT in this forum for vehicle requirements.

As far as suggested items: All needed camping gear. Tools and spare parts are a good idea. Extra vehicle fluids. You'll want a camera of your choice. I've done video, digital, and 35mm. A GPS is nice to have too. This list could go on and on.

Most of the campgrounds have toilets, but that's it. No running water, just a hand well pump. So keep that in mind when you pack. There are picknick tables, and fire rings too. There is also a lot of wood lying around, but I don't know the laws on scavenging the wood for a fire. Unless we have an unusually dry season, we should be able to have a fire.

You'll be able to get gas nearby. It's a bit spendy, but it's there. You can also travel into the town of Naches and pick up some groceries if needed too.

The NW Chapter has taken hints from other chapters and their events and has decided to charge for the event. If we do secure the group site, we'll most likely roll most fees into an event price that includes the campground cost, and the event fee.

Steve

[ladywolf]

cherokee, the only trees we've ever cut are the ones layin on the ground that are too big for jeeps to crawl over....we dont cut live ones. policy for the jeep club i used to belong to was to keep the trail how you found it, or better...a lot of times we'd pick up trash on the way, and clear way dead trees from the trail, stuff like that. stuff to keep the trails nice, and the forest service off our backs

[USP40_HK]

Just got back from Naches today. I'll call the forestry service to see about reserving an area we looked at on Monday. Hope it's not reserved, it was perfect for what we need.

What camp area are you looking at? If you are going to an actual improved site, check here to make sure the campground isn't on it. http://www.reserveusa.com/ I checked the group sites in that area and they're all reserved for the time period this group is going. Ever since they've gone to this system it's been a real pain but at least you have a nice, well-maintained ground as well as a guaranteed site. This is a third party reservation service that runs it now. Really helps to plan ahead. Have you considered an unimproved area?

Good luck.

[Willis]

What camp area are you looking at? If you are going to an actual improved site, check here to make sure the campground isn't on it. http://www.reserveusa.com/ I checked the group sites in that area and they're all reserved for the time period this group is going. Ever since they've gone to this system it's been a real pain but at least you have a nice, well-maintained ground as well as a guaranteed site. This is a third party reservation service that runs it now. Really helps to plan ahead. Have you considered an unimproved area?

Good luck.

I called the reservation number on the sign by the group site, it directed me to the company you posted. The group site is taken that weekend, kinda sucks. I was looking at Kaner Flats. The larger Kaner Flats campground is first come first serve. We may just do it there. I would not mind an unimproved area, you know any large enough?

You can reserve the areas as soon as 1 year in advance. We should reserve the group site for this time next year.

Steve

[ECKSJAY]

Hey Steve there is primitive camping all throughout Manastash (at least the last time I was up there). For those who don't know, primitive is totally unimproved...ie: bring in your own water, no toilets available. Might be what this group will have to do this time. Only problem with that is not being able to reserve anything, so everyone would have to show up and see what we get.

Have you entertained the idea of maybe getting a few individual sites at another campground? Some of the sites at different campgrounds allow more than one vehicle, sometimes 3 or so. LD (USP) referred me to that website last year and it does say whether you can have more than one vehicle at it. The maps online might give you an idea of what sites to get...then see if you can get a few close together. I've done group camping trips via individual sites within the same campground and it worked. You just have to have everyone on the same page and set up a further 'rally' point for each run/event. Example: I was just at the site and as of right now Sawmill Flat Campground (in the area, just off 410 before Cliffdell) has sites 7-13 open, each allows 2 vehicles per site, max occupancy 6 people per site.
http://www.reserveusa.com/nrrs/wa/sawm/sawm1.gif
They're all in line from one another in the loop. Drawback: Sites have to be paid for in advance and will run about $15/night, $7/night additional vehicle (average price). It adds up pretty quickly. I'm taking my family up to one of the sites on this side of the mountains the weekend before and it's running us $39 for the weekend (of course this includes their $9 'reservation fee' per site. Nice, they require you to reserve them but charge you $9, a la TicketMaster). At least we're paid for and guaranteed to be available for us when we get there.

I hope this works out for everyone. I was under the impression it was going to be a primitive camping thing from the beginning. Reserving a group site for next year might not be a bad idea. :)

[ladywolf]

sawmill flats is where i was talking about. its a pretty nice campground. you guys i'll like it:) plus its 5 mins away from some caverns, if yall wanted to do a group thing.


Kris

[XJourney]

So as of today with less then a month to go the list includes
Willis
Verrive
Railroadjeep
JJ13 -vehicle
PNW01XJ
Ecksjay -vehicle
Matt98XJ
Motornoggin
Staticrevolution
CW
Dawg Cherokee
Yellowxj00 ?
AFjeep082 ?
Argalaviz
2xtreme
Dellstopjeep
BigPimpBen
Anozireth

Am I missing anyone? We still have lots of room. :wantyou:
If anyone wants to make a convoy from north whatcom county down I5. PM me. I have Friday the 23rd off so I will be leaving about 11 am.

[ECKSJAY]

With less than a month to go an event fee was announced. Any idea of cost? I'm sure others would like to know. :confused1

Who is sponsoring all the non-members on this run, anyway?

[hards91xj]

So as of today with less then a month to go the list includes
Willis
Verrive
Railroadjeep
JJ13 -vehicle
PNW01XJ
Ecksjay -vehicle
Matt98XJ
Motornoggin
Staticrevolution
CW
Dawg Cherokee
Yellowxj00 ?
AFjeep082 ?
Argalaviz
2xtreme
Dellstopjeep
BigPimpBen
Anozireth

Am I missing anyone? We still have lots of room. :wantyou:
If anyone wants to make a convoy from north whatcom county down I5. PM me. I have Friday the 23rd off so I will be leaving about 11 am.
hards91xj

[XJourney]

OOPS sorry how could I forget Hards91 :wierd:
Not sure on the fee I'm sure we will know by the end of the week.

Event committee is still open for people to sign up
Event coordinator
Meal Coordinator
Trail Coordinator

[Willis]

After talking with other chapters and event coordinators, we've decided on an event fee as follows:

$20 NAXJA Members
$30 Non-Members
$45 Non-Members who wish to join NAXJA at the time of the event. This is a savings of $15 over paying the non-member event fee, then becoming a member down the road. This includes a 1 year membership to NAXJA. $30 value.

Please let us know if you are attending or not so we can update our numbers. Also, if you could please post how many in your party, so we can plan accordingly for food (you all want to eat right?).

The meal will be handled by the NW Chapter. Once we figure out how much it will cost us, I'll let you how much the meal will cost.

We are planning a small raffle and 50/50 too.

I'm trying to get some NAXJA (national) t-shirts and stickers to be sold at the event too.

Hopefully we'll be able to raise enough money to have t-shirts and stickers made for next year, and reserve the group site 1 year in advance (it has to be paid up front, and will cost probably $200 or better).

Steve

[XJourney]

Count me in for two for dinner :chef:

[dellstopjeep]

i may be out of the town so u might need to remove me from the list from now, and also user bigpiminben will be riding with me if we go.
sorry for the inconvience
eric

[Willis]

i may be out of the town so u might need to remove me from the list from now, and also user bigpiminben will be riding with me if we go.
sorry for the inconvience
eric

Thanks for the heads up!

[Motornoggin]

I will be bringing my wife and 3yo son. I took Friday off, so we can leave pretty much anytime if anyone wants to convoy from the Portland area.

[Anozireth]

I am still planning on attending and will most likely have one person riding with me.

[yellowxj00]

I am up on the air as of right now. Don't know if I will be in town that week. It will be a last minute show if I can go. So, if I do show I'll have my own provisions and fees.

[Matt98XJ]

I'm still trying to get off of work, but if I come there will be one more person.

[Dawg Cherokee]

It looks doubtful that I will even be able to make it for the one day I had hoped for. :mad: Sorry for the late notice. Please let me know of any other runs coming up.

Good luck to all.

[Motornoggin]

Well, I just learned that I will be moving in two weeks, so I will not be able to make it. I was so looking forward to it too. I will be there next year.