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LT1XJ
April 2nd, 2003, 14:08
I am looking at getting a tubing bender. I was looking at the 1 3/4 dies, JD2 doesn't sell 90's anymore and suggests 180's, what would be the best radius to go with I was thinking 5.5. Any suggestions?
Dustin:confused:

4ward
April 2nd, 2003, 16:10
My 5.5 radius bends beautifully. That's all I have to say.

Sean

Grant
April 2nd, 2003, 16:13
Agree with One Ton. 5.5 " is all you need.

I could never see the 90 degree die being useful when the 180 does it all and more.

Beezil
April 2nd, 2003, 17:03
nod nod nod.......

and I lika my 180 and 270 dies, I even like my 360 dies too!

90 limits you.

don't think twice about the 180

LT1XJ
April 2nd, 2003, 17:10
Thanks for the help. I ordered the 180 5.5. JD2 said they stopped carrying the 90's because it was a waste. Now I am going to end up with even more projects going, not to mention even less money. Besides 1 3/4 what does everyone use for other stuff. I was thinking down the road I might pick up a 1.5 die also.
Dustin

Beezil
April 2nd, 2003, 17:16
You might wanna wait until you NEED the 1.5...

the one you just got is an excellent diameter/radius, you made a good choice.

My rollcage is a blend of both 1.5 and 1.75, but if I only had ONE die, I probably would have gone with 1.75........or maybe 1.5...who the hell knows?

stick with what you have and make it work for your projects, until a design limitation ABSOLUTLY calls for something else.

post pics along the way.

4ward
April 2nd, 2003, 19:24
I'm doing a cage for an s-10 in a couple weeks. The guy is buying the 1.5" die for me. All I'm doin' is a main hoop and a couple of side bars. He's one of you screwy windy city types. Says he just wants something to pose with.

Sean

XJJPR
April 2nd, 2003, 19:38
Originally posted by OneTonXJ
I'm doing a cage for an s-10 in a couple weeks. The guy is buying the 1.5" die for me.
Sean

I guess it's ok to work on an s-10 if you're getting to keep the die!

Mark
orgs mfg

FarmerMatt
April 2nd, 2003, 19:47
One little trick that I've had good luck with is to make shims for bigger dies to bend smaller tubing. You bend a piece of tubing that measures the difference in thickness between the die you have & the tubing you want to bend. Cut this in half length wise & you have the shim for the radius side. Cut a straight piece in half length wise & you have the other shim. Stick them in your die & bend the tubing size you desire. Yes it's a little more cumbersome than having the right sized die, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying a die you won't use often.

Matt

Beezil
April 2nd, 2003, 19:52
he's probably from the burbs....

make it a point to ask. I'm conducting a study.

Fenris
April 2nd, 2003, 20:17
Who makes the JD2 (search showed nothing). I'm about to buy the M-Tech and would like another option. Anyone tried the M-tech

Lincoln
April 2nd, 2003, 20:20
M-tech is the JD2 (JD squared).

Here's the link:
<http://www.jd2.com/>

Beezil
April 2nd, 2003, 20:33
don't fohgit about pro-tools as well.

MaXJohnson
April 2nd, 2003, 20:36
I also think the 1 3/4" is the perfect choice if you only get one die.

Another thing to consider is the bend radius. A tighter bend like 5 1/2" might look nicer, but a larger radius will be stronger. It spreads the corner loads out and stretches the outer part of the tubing less.

Less stretch = thicker wall = stronger

Beezil
April 2nd, 2003, 20:46
I disagree with Max.

I think if you are gonna die in a rollover WITH A CAGE, you better make sure you look cool doing it.

go with the nicer looking radius die.

FarmerMatt
April 2nd, 2003, 20:50
Beez is right on. Silicon makes a much better looking weld than a welder does plus you can color match any color you want. You don't have to worry about catching the carpet on fire either during installation.

Matt

Lincoln
April 2nd, 2003, 20:53
I thought that was what JB Weld was for. The fireless weld.

:dunno:

4ward
April 3rd, 2003, 06:50
I don't think that there is really anything to worry about with the wall stretch. As a portion of you have seen me test my cage out thouroghly, the only thing that has bent is the angled down door bar. I've had the thing completely bound up against walls/ trees/ etc. and people have told me that there was absolutely no flex in the cage. Take it for what it's worth folks.

Sean

Beezil
April 3rd, 2003, 07:02
that side tube would have bent a lot more if KY chris didn't stick out his leg to stop the roll.

that was amazing.