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Regearing for dummies

I get a double-take for going doorless occasionally from cops, but most of the time they laugh, wave, and accelerate back up to their twenty-over cruising speed.
 
HaZakated said:
Where can I find good cheap new gear install kits for the diffs? I just had those bad boys open 3 weeks ago too. Thanks for help.
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Here is the first OXYMORON...good and cheap are not compatible...thats whats taking me so damn long to do the job.
 
agree'd.....I ment best bang for the buck.

I rode with a guy in a 95 wrangler with 36" IROKS this past weekend up a hill called Moonshine at Natural Bridge KY. This 10 minute ride consisted of some of the hardest rock crawling I have ever encountered and has motivated me to feed my XJ. We rolled onto the side at one point of this hill, luckily we all just pushed off the side to get all four wheels back on the ground. I just bought a 99 chrystler town and country for my DD so now its time to beef up the XJ.

Being that I am a student at Miami University, at this point dont have alot of cash to fork out. On the other hand my major is Mechanical Engineering so any project that I do will help me in gaining experience (thats what I tell my wife..shhh).

I probably should have bitten my tounge and swallowed my pride to the cop. Hey...I offered him a ride didn't I?.......lol

Thanks for the help on gearing and social issues with da 5.0.
 
sorry to thread hijack......but can you go doorless in an XJ in FLorida???
 
2xtreme said:
If you have a buddy that has done gear many times, talk to him about what ratio you should get and have him or an expert put them in for you.

I find it funny that the officer should phrase himself differently but you apparantly do not? FYI, the police are here to protect you and I. If he didn't pull you over I would have been upset at him!!
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Protect you from whom? Yourself? Seriously, would you be happy if you were pulled over, had your time wasted because it could have been illegal even though it wasn't. You'd think he be a little embarrased for making that mistake but no, instead wants to start an argument.

On the other hand, yeah bieng rude back at him is going to get you nowhere.

Also, what do lower gears have to do with getting pulled over for no doors?
 
I think he hijacked his own thread right out of the starting gates in his initial post...
 
N20Jeep said:
sorry to thread hijack......but can you go doorless in an XJ in FLorida???
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If you can go doorless in a CJ, why not in an XJ? Many larger delivery trucks also run around with no doors, including UPS trucks. I dont see how going doorless could be any more illegal than going topless in a convertible.
 
Well, since this has turned into a thread on running doorless, and why a CJ or YJ is okay to run with no doors, and why an XJ isn't... the reason is this: it's a double standard.

Let me explain. Here in Washington state, the "RCW" (revised code of washington) states that the doors must be in place and maintained in factory condition. Which means, if your vehicle came with doors from the factory, you have to have them. That's ALL it says about the subject. So, even though you have a wrangler or CJ, or whatever other vehicle that is typically seen as a "doorless" vehicle... you must keep the doors on it IF IT CAME WITH THEM (how often have you seen a new TJ at the dealership with no doors?).

So, after that, what is the difference in running an XJ doorless vs running a CJ doorless? Nothing. Both situations are less safe than with factory doors, both could potentially be deadly in a crash, neither vehicle is designed to use the doors for "structural integrity" of the body. Both vehicles have shoulder belts and safety devices in place (well, as long as you don't have side impact beams in your doors like newer XJ's), IE airbags if your vehicle came with them, etc.

So, I got pulled over not for having no doors, but for having HALF doors. The state patrol insisted that because the law said I had to have doors in factory condition, that I had to put my regular doors back on, and proceeded to give me a fix-it ticket for that issue and a couple others (flares, a brake light out, etc). Of course, after looking all this info up, I believe I could've convinced him of my argument, but at the time I just wanted to get home, so I didn't do any arguing.

Now, as far as the original gearing question... if you're running the 8.25, the lowest you can go is 4.56. Go for that in the front and rear, leave the front open for now until you need it/can afford it, then install a lunchbox locker of some sort. The front will require a new carrier if you're running any factory gears other than 4.10's. The 8.25 will not require a new carrier to my knowledge. You COULD put 4:1 gears in your transfer case, but with stock gears in the diffs, highway driving is still going to suck because the 4:1 only affects low range. Gear the differentials appropriately first, then decide if you want 4:1 in the transfer case.
 
In Texas you can get away with just a rear view mirror. On our XJ's and MJ's, the side mirrors are mounted to the door. It would be wise to run some kind of bracket on the windshield frame to hold a mirror. I think the main concern of the officer that stopped you, was that you didn't have any side mirrors.
 
In my case I did not have a mirror, but only because I did not put it back on after wheeling. The cop gave me shit about that, but said that wasn't the reason he pulled me over, it was because of my half doors. I grabbed my mirror and put it back on right there, but he still added that to the fix-it ticket.
 
uvaldetxj said:
pigs...
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Ungrateful...to the men and women that put their lives on the line everyday for you and people like you only to have it thrown in their faces, people like you make it hard to care.
 
am i ungrateful? no.... i'm fully aware they put their lives on the line. hell, i put my life on the line everyday selling beer and cigarettes to people like you. People like you who you shove comments in my face saying i'm ungrateful. This is NAXJA, these boards are full of jokers. If you're going to get upset over a stupid comment like that, you might as well just fold.
 
In some states, the legality of running doorless depends on the height of the doorsill from the inside floor. (I believe in va it was ~4 inches) If you observe a TJ/YJ, they have a deeper floorpan to doorsill height than most other vehicles.
Check your state's DMV code books and be smart.
 
Update...

I would just like to apologize to Naxja user "Traverse" and every other person that I offended with my negative post about law enforcement. I am truly sorry for the stupid comment I wrote almost eight years ago. I am ashamed that I thought that way back then.

For the record, I've been employed as a Texas Police Officer for 2 years now. Now, i've come to realize how things are on "our" side.

Godbless you all, thank you members and users of Naxja for all the help given to me back then. I hope to own another XJ soon.

Thank you,
formerly uvaldetxj
 
It's the general stereotyping that causes problems. The cop who doesn't know the laws he's sworn to enforce is an idiot, proven by name calling when proven wrong. He doesn't deserve respect because he has a job that he doesn't do very well. Then there is the fix-it ticket racketeer. Legit items sure, but when you put the mirror back on right there, let that one go. The cost of a fix-it here in ca rose to $40-100 per violation recently, and that kind of bs is legalized theft. I got pulled over a block from my house for mud flaps, but didn't have my wallet. I had just replaced my steering and was driving it around the block to test it. I told the officer I'd walk over and get my license. He said no need as I'd given him the #. Guess what was on the ticket along with the mud flaps? It is criminal the behavior of some of these people. Respect must be earned, and wearing a uniform doesn't grant you a pass.
 
zachandandy said:
It's the general stereotyping that causes problems. The cop who doesn't know the laws he's sworn to enforce is an idiot, proven by name calling when proven wrong. He doesn't deserve respect because he has a job that he doesn't do very well. Then there is the fix-it ticket racketeer. Legit items sure, but when you put the mirror back on right there, let that one go. The cost of a fix-it here in ca rose to $40-100 per violation recently, and that kind of bs is legalized theft. I got pulled over a block from my house for mud flaps, but didn't have my wallet. I had just replaced my steering and was driving it around the block to test it. I told the officer I'd walk over and get my license. He said no need as I'd given him the #. Guess what was on the ticket along with the mud flaps? It is criminal the behavior of some of these people. Respect must be earned, and wearing a uniform doesn't grant you a pass.
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Well said.
 
zachandandy said:
It's the general stereotyping that causes problems. The cop who doesn't know the laws he's sworn to enforce is an idiot, proven by name calling when proven wrong. He doesn't deserve respect because he has a job that he doesn't do very well. Then there is the fix-it ticket racketeer. Legit items sure, but when you put the mirror back on right there, let that one go. The cost of a fix-it here in ca rose to $40-100 per violation recently, and that kind of bs is legalized theft. I got pulled over a block from my house for mud flaps, but didn't have my wallet. I had just replaced my steering and was driving it around the block to test it. I told the officer I'd walk over and get my license. He said no need as I'd given him the #. Guess what was on the ticket along with the mud flaps? It is criminal the behavior of some of these people. Respect must be earned, and wearing a uniform doesn't grant you a pass.
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There are asshats everywhere. Sometimes officers are given instructions to handle things a certain way and they have no choice. There are a lot of reasons for this, but no officer should ever be rude or disrespectful to anyone who is not rude or disrespectful to them first. True, there are those who don't do their job very well. It sucks to hear from people who have encountered those cops and now believe all cops are a$$holes.
 
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