So far from this thread which is getting painfull at this point... I have come to the conclusion...
The buggy guys are Elitests because they can afford to build some kick ass buggies and their wives let them do it, even though their wives own their elitist asses after these events. (BTW, I had no sense of that impression this year)
So start saving your pennies cuz the only way to join the "elitists" group and get to hang is to have a jeep that can hang with them on the rocks. I for one do not feel Richard, Dave, Matt, Paul, Jess, Andy and whoever else looking down at me. saturday night, I drove out to the top of BD and hicked up the hill. Then I got involved with helping pull winch lines and and securing tow straps. They don't give me the stink eye unless I'm being a total asshat. But for some strange reason, I am always greeted with a firm handshake and a smile when I walk up.
I've been guilty of many things in the past from running my tiny little honda generator all night to getting sick from exessive drunkeness.
But one thing people need to understand. and don't gimme the "its a big desert" Bullshit. Its not the fact that its a big desert. Its not how drunk you are. If your old enough to drink, then your old enough to have a fucking clue. Every camp has a status. If your camped 50 yards from the main camp then you need to recognize that camps general ambience and match it. And this is a practice I think I have allways followed. Its like the dumbass that used to drive through the condo complex at midnight with the windows down and the stereo cranked.
Being cool in the desert doesn't mean how drunk and rowdy you can get. Being cool in the desert means how social of an attitude you have.
Yes, Ben needs to drink less. He didn't even remember punching me in the face or bitch slapping me. But we are cool. (and I didn't punch you in the dick at my B-day party. I grabbed your junk just to see how high you would jump.) I dare him/you to go a weekend without drinking at all! I stayed sober on saturday night and I had an absolute blast. This comming from the guy the has supplied the group with vast amounts of high gravity beer in the past.
BSC, you guys are all good.
The gun thing. I don't care if your firing it. Yes away from camp is a good idea. But not at all is even better.
One of these days, someone is gonna get pissed and people are really gonna get hurt. I prefer to do my getting hurt on the trail or around the bed of my truck at my own will. Ben, thanks for not trying to wrestle me to the ground I'm not as young and limber as I used to be. But I wasn't happy about getting hit either. But you and I will talk and work it out. I still love ya man and I care about everyone otherwise I would just ignore you and defriend you. But thats not the case.
Rather than being a chanker sore, I want everyone to like me. And I want to like everyone. We have something in common so lets stay friends. I share alot of my stuff, thats why I bring it. Whether its beer, my welder or my bitch seat people are allways welcome. I'm just glad nobody found my bottle of Stone Epic 07-07-07 when I was sleeping friday night. That would have pissed me off.
can this thread end anytime soon.
people know that people are pissed. some fingers have been pointed and some defenses have been made. Some changes will happen next year and some things will be done differently.
as for now. Lets just get over it.