old_man
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Towing an XJ with a Tow Dolly
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camarors8992
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1995XJSport said:
I wouldn't think so.
Slo-Sho
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You'd better have a way to prove it's yours if you get stopped. 
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Matthew Currie
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The dollies I've rented have had their own plates and lights, thus counting as a trailer in their own right.1995XJSport said:
It's true that you could also pull the front shaft instead of the rear, but because it has bolted joints at both ends, I think the rear is quicker. Besides, at least on my 95, the bolts on the transfer case end are very very tight and I'd expect that if one of those sheared off it would be harder to deal with than the ones on the rear axle.
1995XJSport
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Allright, here's an idea...
what if i towed it on a tow dolly, and just put it in 2HI and Neutral (on the tranny) ...and every 10-15 miles, i stopped the truck, turned it over, and let it ran a bit...so it would oil up the bearings?
(Or am i thinking like a GM product)
...where exactly is the rear output bearings anyway? Are we talking a tranny rebuild?
what if i towed it on a tow dolly, and just put it in 2HI and Neutral (on the tranny) ...and every 10-15 miles, i stopped the truck, turned it over, and let it ran a bit...so it would oil up the bearings?
(Or am i thinking like a GM product)
...where exactly is the rear output bearings anyway? Are we talking a tranny rebuild?
langer1
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1995XJSport said:
In most states, yes if there are wheels on the ground the it must have plates and working brake and turn signal lights.
scorpio_vette
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how far does this jeep need to go, and what insurance do you have??? i've noticed that many people actually pay a small fee (mine is $3) that is included in their insurance and they don't even know about it (i didn't for the first 2 years till my agent brought it up once). the fee is to cover towing expenses. now anytime i need something towed, i call a tow truck and then hand the tow bill to my insurance agent to get re-embursed.
old_man
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- Loveland, Colorado
In Colorado you can get a temporary tag for a few dollars to cover this type of thing. If you are buying a car in Colorado and taking it to a different state and will tag it there, they have an "in transit" tag.
rockwerks
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1995XJSport said:
why are you having such an issue with removal of 4 small bolts?
If you rent a tow dolly, the tow dolly is licensed and has lights, the vehicle does not need them
RickyN29
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I still do not understand why the DS needs to be disconnected. If the rear tires are turning, they are turning the DS, which is turning the output shaft, which is turning the oil pump, which is lubricating the transfer case. If the TC is in neutral, everything should be fine.
old_man
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Neutral in the tcase is not a true neutral. In neutral, the front and rear shafts are connected together, so if you spin the rear shaft, the front shaft will turn. It does disco the tranny in neutral, but not the front shaft.
cwstnsko
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old_man said:
This is not true for all NP231s, the newer years do have true neutral.
I just bought my '94, and when installing the lift, I noticed that I DO have true neutral in mine. I'm not sure if some of the older ones have it, or if my t-case has been alterd and/or replaced. Anyone else have true neutral in a pre-97 XJ?
Ray H
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cwstnsko said:
My 96 has a true neutral. Its a late 96 though, so many parts are 97 production year parts.
My wifes TJ also has a true N.
Im not positive about my YJ. I know Ive had it in N with the rear on jackstands and it turns, but I may have been thrown off by the front axle disconnect.
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Matthew Currie
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cwstnsko said:
Yes, my 95 is a true neutral too. I had thought for a while that 95 might be the pivotal year, because according to the FSM, there was a mid year change in the innards (dropping the synchromesh) but it appears to be a red herring.
WTF
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Just pull the straps on the rear axle straps to tow dolly an XJ.
That is, unless you're really comfortable with the possibility of this happpening:
It was an NP242. We usually disconnect the rear shaft to tow but after a long wheeling day trip figured it would be OK for the ~80 mile trip home never exceeding 60MPH.
I didn't see this before unloading at the next trip and re-attaching the rear DS. 4LO wouldnt engage all day and upon returning to camp I found that site in my inspection. Interestingly enough I did have 2-Low when shifted into the 4 lo position...
In the process of finding and installing a replacement I lost a solid half of a day out of my 10 days of 'real' wheeling a year that i have a chance to get in. I also paid dearly even after bargaining for the new junkyard t-case because the guy at the counter knew I was in a bind.
I'm 99.8% sure this failure was due to towing on the tow dolly with the rear DS connected. The shifter isn't all that tight to begin with on a 20 year old XJ and hitting a bump was probably just enough to get it to partially engage into another range from Neutral.
For the 3 minutes it takes to disconnect the rear shaft I consider it cheap insurance...
That is, unless you're really comfortable with the possibility of this happpening:
It was an NP242. We usually disconnect the rear shaft to tow but after a long wheeling day trip figured it would be OK for the ~80 mile trip home never exceeding 60MPH.
I didn't see this before unloading at the next trip and re-attaching the rear DS. 4LO wouldnt engage all day and upon returning to camp I found that site in my inspection. Interestingly enough I did have 2-Low when shifted into the 4 lo position...
In the process of finding and installing a replacement I lost a solid half of a day out of my 10 days of 'real' wheeling a year that i have a chance to get in. I also paid dearly even after bargaining for the new junkyard t-case because the guy at the counter knew I was in a bind.
I'm 99.8% sure this failure was due to towing on the tow dolly with the rear DS connected. The shifter isn't all that tight to begin with on a 20 year old XJ and hitting a bump was probably just enough to get it to partially engage into another range from Neutral.
For the 3 minutes it takes to disconnect the rear shaft I consider it cheap insurance...
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cwstnsko
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The 242 is an entirely different animal. I've heard several reports of blowing them up merely by running rear wheels only on the dyno for a few minutes of emission testing. If I recall correctly it was the 242 that is lubed by the turning of the front driveshaft. Any situation where the front driveshaft doesn't turn and the rear does can eat it up.
