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Old September 19th, 2008, 17:33
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Re: My 44/9" full width cherokee build

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awesome, that's better than mine!


personal question...: I'm thinking about doing a 44/14 bolt(free axle) build...

What's the biggest drawback of going full-width as opposed to trying to build a stronger(probably not AS strong), narrower rig? are there any?
If you don't also go larger tires than ground clearance is a drawback. More likely to drag your diff with a wider stance and same size tires.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 17:57
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Re: My 44/9" full width cherokee build

I'm on 35's already... I'm looking to make the heep strong enough to handle them...
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Old September 19th, 2008, 18:28
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I'm on 35's already... I'm looking to make the heep strong enough to handle them...
Unless you're planning on going 37+ I wouldn't go full width otherwise people will start calling your axles anchors.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 19:50
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Re: My 44/9" full width cherokee build

AAAAHH!!!!! but it's free!!!
haha, alright... 8.8 it is I guess...


More people's opinions first though???
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Old September 19th, 2008, 20:44
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Re: My 44/9" full width cherokee build

You can shave a 14 bolt and gain clearance, wider stance = more stable, the 14 bolt is FREE.
I really like that last bit. I'd go FW on 35s, never break another axle and pick up some stability. Just shave the 14er when you get a chance.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 21:07
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Re: My 44/9" full width cherokee build

If you can't resist, shave it and go 37s next time.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 22:11
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Re: My 44/9" full width cherokee build

damnit you guys! You are making this really hard! LOL

(BTW, sorry to hijack the thread...)
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Old September 22nd, 2008, 09:42
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Re: My 44/9" full width cherokee build

I think there are positives and negatives either way.
A lot of it depends on where you wheel. Out east I would guess forest trails are pretty tight. I haven't seen much out here (like Moab) where more width does not help.

You can run a bigger tire with less lift with a wider rig because the tires don't get into the body as much. More width+ lower c.o.g. = Stability.

You will fit better in narrower trails with a narrower rig. but you can run more backspacing on you rims to get it narrower.

Jes would give some great reasons why narrower is better,

but I feel it's all about what and where you wheel. I didn't build my rig for mud for example, so it probably won't do as well as someone who did: and vice versa: a huge fullsize with 15+ inches of stiff lift, 400hp and tractor tires wouldn't work as well on the rocks
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Old September 22nd, 2008, 10:16
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Re: My 44/9" full width cherokee build

So I busted out to Little Moab on Friday night with my buddy Chris and my little brother to meet some of the Wild Yoats crew.

Here's some video why width, at least around here, is good.

I only folded the mirror back and scratched some plastic, and bent the post on the cop light, and almost ran over my stupid bushwacker that the tire ripped off.
If I was any narrower, I'm sure I would have took out the windshield, A-pillar, and driverside window like Rawlin said he did on his old yota.

With some killer spotting from Rawlin I made it through no problem


Oh and the new center limit strap, rear locker, and gears kicked butt, helped keep the front end from unloading and sucked down on steep stuff and I did a bunch on lines that have denied me before!

4.88's rule! I did a burnout friday on pavement with 35's

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Old September 22nd, 2008, 14:25
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Re: My 44/9" full width cherokee build

that looked fun! how much wider overall are you than me though?
I'm (sadly) still on stock axles (obviously I'm planning on changing...), but I'm running 35x12.5's on 8" wheels with 4" backspacing... you don't really LOOK much wider than I am??? I guess you probably have wheels with a lot of backspacing huh? I dunno, you just don't look a WHOLE lot narrower than mine. I think that with a good spotter, and good (or lucky lol) driving, that little canyon would be just as do-able with stock width axles... but that's me... I don't know...


Nice Job the second time by the way!
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Old October 4th, 2008, 15:36
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Re: My 44/9" full width cherokee build

So I started a ladder bar style traction bar a while ago, and I'm just finishing. It's pouring rain out so I can't finish bolting it up but here you go with a quick how too

mocking up the mount.


welding the heim adapter into the tubing


rough finished traction bar
1/4" plate between the upper and lower.

Unfortunetly welding the plate in pulled the upper and lower together about 1/8" so I need to redrill one on the mounts on the axle.





I modified a stock shackle to fit between the frame rail and muffler on the passenger side (ignore the pealing paint)


more pics when it quits raining.
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Old October 5th, 2008, 11:18
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Finished the traction bar up last night, I'm pretty excited about it! The lower bar protects most of the driveshaft except for the yoke and hangs no lower than the muffler




The mount (note narrowed shackle)

Bolts through the floor and will bolt to the frame in a few places once I pick up some big self tappers



a seriously tight squeeze,

I had to tilt the bracket to the ps to fit

I'm super excited to try it out in Moab... Leaving Wednesday!

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Old October 6th, 2008, 10:52
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Re: My 44/9" full width cherokee build

Here are a few brainstorming threads I used for the Traction Bar build

Picture request thread
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=968220

and here
Rear traction bar info/ build questions
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=960630
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Old October 7th, 2008, 00:12
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Re: My 44/9" full width cherokee build

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The mount (note narrowed shackle)
Cool, but your shackle is pointing the wrong way.
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Old October 7th, 2008, 00:37
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Re: My 44/9" full width cherokee build

and that matters for this application why?
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