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Old December 10th, 2016, 03:42
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Got the vibes after 3.5" Metalcloak lift was installed. Nothin else changed except lift with same 235 tires. New motor n tranny mounts. It's a 5 speed manual with 231 case. Wondering if anyone has done the hack n tap with front shaft for this set up? Or the tailshaft change and front driveshaft used for that matter?
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Old December 10th, 2016, 05:48
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Got the vibes after 3.5" Metalcloak lift was installed. Nothin else changed except lift with same 235 tires. New motor n tranny mounts. It's a 5 speed manual with 231 case. Wondering if anyone has done the hack n tap with front shaft for this set up? Or the tailshaft change and front driveshaft used for that matter?


I don't know what the metal cloak lift nets out at, but my 3.5 RE lift caused my jeep to be undrivable because of driveshaft bind. I'm guessing it netted out around 5" of actual lift. I needed 1.5" TC drop to get it home from my friends house.

I went with a SYE and it solved it and I'm running a stock from DS in the rear.

I'd do SYE kit over hack and tap.


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Old December 10th, 2016, 05:50
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Just saw you have a 97, which means you have the Chrysler 8.25. Depending on if your front shaft is stock or not, you may or may not be able to run it in the back. I had a few front DS on hand and only one fit after the SYE because the nose of the 8.25 is longer. The other shafts were too long.


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Old December 10th, 2016, 06:18
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He could just as easily have a D35.
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Old December 10th, 2016, 06:45
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Just as easily?

From my understanding all 97+ had 8.25, I guess unless it was replaced?

Regardless of what you have, the nose length is different between a 8.25 and D35. It makes a difference. All I'm saying.


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Old December 10th, 2016, 06:50
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I don't know where you got that from? They used both till the demise of the XJ!
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Old December 10th, 2016, 07:01
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I don't know where you got that from? They used both till the demise of the XJ!


I guess I falsely assumed that when the 29 spline 8.25 was introduced in 97 the D35 went away. I thought that was the reason for the slow progression from the weak D35 in early models, to the 27 spline 8.26 that was no stronger, then to the 29 spline 8.25 in 97+.

I guess it's possible for jeep to throw a 35 in a 97+, but I wouldn't think it would be standard equip.


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Old December 10th, 2016, 07:15
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Re: SYE question

I had a 98 with a limited slip 35.

But as far as your drive shaft, I think you'll need a longer shaft than a stock front off an XJ since you have a AX15. I used the front shaft off a 95 ZJ V8 and it fit just about perfect with my 96 manual 8.25. I didn't use a hack n tap though, I did an advanced adapters SYE.
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It is a 8.25 diff. Will I need to shim with the SYE or good without?
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It is a 8.25 diff. Will I need to shim with the SYE or good without?
You'd have to check your angles after you get it done. But I'd say yes.
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Old December 10th, 2016, 08:01
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I guess I falsely assumed that when the 29 spline 8.25 was introduced in 97 the D35 went away. I thought that was the reason for the slow progression from the weak D35 in early models, to the 27 spline 8.26 that was no stronger, then to the 29 spline 8.25 in 97+.

I guess it's possible for jeep to throw a 35 in a 97+, but I wouldn't think it would be standard equip.


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The D35 was retained in the later years for XJs with anti-lock brakes.
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An SYE should also have axle shims.

1997-01 the D35 is more common that the Chry 8.25. No XJ Chry 8.25 had anti-lock brakes.
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Old December 10th, 2016, 08:43
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This is interesting convo. I honestly don't think I've ever seen an XJ from 97-01 with a D35 in person. There's lots of info out there about when axles were introduced, but not discontinued.

Also, for the shim question, I have 4 degrees in there and it's fine with an old worn out driveshaft.


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An SYE should also have axle shims.

1997-01 the D35 is more common that the Chry 8.25. No XJ Chry 8.25 had anti-lock brakes.
This is my understanding as well. But I hardly ever see a D35. Everything around here has 8.25s.
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An SYE should also have axle shims.

1997-01 the D35 is more common that the Chry 8.25. No XJ Chry 8.25 had anti-lock brakes.
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Fortunately, in the 90s the Dana 35 for the most part only reared its ugly head in the ABS-equipped Jeeps.
http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/tr...ee-axle-guide/
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