First snow

[XJNOOB93]

First snow hit tonight here in Monument... I dk if it has anywhere else but I'm sure it has. Pikes Peak has had snow on it for a month or a lil longer.


LOTS of snow has come down so far and its supposed to go into tomorrow afternoon... and my 4 wheel drive is acting up... crappy.

Is it snowing right now anywhere else?

[Frank Z]

Just looked outside...yard is white. Now if it would just get bitter cold, negative temps PLEASE!!!!

[XJNOOB93]

Why do you want negative temps???? I dont wanna wake up in the morning and have to let my horses out in -15 degree weather

[Frank Z]

I'm in the Heating and A/C biz. The more extreme the temps the better.

[XJNOOB93]

Originally Posted by Frank Z

I'm in the Heating and A/C biz. The more extreme the temps the better.

O haha gotcha. Well I'll pray with you that it gets to be really cold.

And if you want, I can go around smashing heaters. I only take 15%

[Frank Z]

10% and you got a deal!!

[Skully]

Originally Posted by Frank Z

I'm in the Heating and A/C biz. The more extreme the temps the better.

Oh ya, prey on the unfortunate souls who's furnace breaks down.........no wonder karma kicks you in the arse!


I have sad story about my experience with the subject. Follow me back to a time not too long ago.......

2005; early spring bought house and previous owner stated the furnace was recently serviced and had a year warranty.
2006; Fall, furnace stopped working, called repair man on listed warranty thingy. He shows up and says "your warranty is expired" $500 for a new circuit board.
2007; One week before Xmas furnace blowing cold air, called different repair man. "It is your ignition element, will clean and replace........oops sorry can't touch your furnace. Heat Exchanger is cracked. Here we have a nice inexpensive furnace for only $1900.00. ......oh no..........sorry you don't qualify for credit, sorry, Merry Xmas though and congrats on your 1 1/2 month old son!"
2008; Found a heating guy through a friend, after using electric space heaters and the wood stove, got new $1800 furnace second week of January, three month credit plan. Had to sell my Tube bender to help pay for furnace, and sacrifice a major part of every paycheck to pay for it for three months.

Karma better kick someone in the arse on that one...............



BTW no snow in the Denver metro area yet..................just windy. Must be just for all you shady Colorado Springs guys

[Frank Z]

Sorry to hear that an yes I'm the bearer of bad news more often than not. I get to be on the receiving end of alot of venom when a customer finds out that they need expensive repairs. On the other hand I've been on a lot of "Second Opinion" calls and found nothing wrong with equipment that someone else has claimed needed major repairs or replacement. Yes there are shaddy techs/companies out there and my trade is no different than any other, auto repair shops, doctors, chiropractors, lawn service companies, etc,etc,etc.

A little bit of advice for ya.
Replace/clean your filer every 30 days (religously!!) regardless of whats on the packaging.
Buy a carbon monoxcide detector and plug it in in your bedroom. Nighthawk is the only brand I trust.
Use a programmable thermostat.
If you suspect that your getting a raw deal...GET SECOND OPINION!!! And before he leaves, make sure you let the service guy know too. But!!!! if the second opinion confirms the initial diagnosis is confirmed give the first guy/gal a chance to make the repair.

Bottom line:
I would much rather earn your trust and your long term business than get into your pocketbook one time. Alot of other contractors feel the same way and unfortunely some don't. I stand behind my work and won't drag my famliy name through the mud for a buck and that's why I put my family name on my business.

I don't "prey" on others.

[philip_g]

Originally Posted by Frank Z

Just looked outside...yard is white. Now if it would just get bitter cold, negative temps PLEASE!!!!

snow here in the rock, streets are dry though, guess I better get around to putting my front DS back in this weekend

[Skully]

Originally Posted by Frank Z

I don't "prey" on others.

It is just the way you said it that sounded funny, like a arms deal hoping for a war of death and destruction.

....just giving you grief Frank

I know that my luck was really bad end of '07 beginning of '08, our boy was born, financial setbacks, wife not working for two months. What pissed me off was the guy called out right before xmas, seemed very happy to condemn my furnace, but when it came to light I didn't have the credit to warrant there credit policy I felt the guy was; "......oops sorry can't help you, and I know you need it. Don't freeze to death, Tootles!

The second guy was awesome and he confirmed that it was true and told me I should have called him earlier but I was trying to secure funds. He made a personal arrangement to get my house and family heat again which was beyond the call of duty. If any one needs a Heating and A/C guy in the Denver Metro area let me know, he was awesome! Unless of course Frank is willing to commute to Denver to work


Again, for northern Denver Metro NO SNOW this morning.

[Skully]

Oh I forgot to ask. How good is an ARMSTRONG brand Frank, since you are the resident Heating expert?

I religiously swap out the filters in the cold months every three, summer the heater never kicks on. Now you tell me monthly, hmmm?

[Jawa]

Hmmm... when I bought my house 4 years ago I had a HVAC guy out to inspect our furnace and he told me my heat exchanger is cracked. I installed a couple of Nighthawk CO detectors and have been using the furnace with no problem. I probably shouldn't be gambling, but I was quoted $3500 for a new furnace. Mine is in a crawl space so I get to pay more, yay! Even with thtat, it sounds like I need to get some more quotes.

I'm a bit further south than Skully and no snow here either, just had a lot of wind...

[_dallas_]

North Fountian recieved a light dusting, but there was 1/8" of snow in the grass of my office building here on Ft. Carson. My buddy who lives up off GOG came into work with a little over 2" on his truck.

[Frank Z]

Originally Posted by Skully

Oh I forgot to ask. How good is an ARMSTRONG brand Frank, since you are the resident Heating expert?

I religiously swap out the filters in the cold months every three, summer the heater never kicks on. Now you tell me monthly, hmmm?

Not bad. Kinda middle of the road. There's better and there's a whole lot worse.

Originally Posted by jawa2021

Hmmm... when I bought my house 4 years ago I had a HVAC guy out to inspect our furnace and he told me my heat exchanger is cracked. I installed a couple of Nighthawk CO detectors and have been using the furnace with no problem. I probably shouldn't be gambling, but I was quoted $3500 for a new furnace. Mine is in a crawl space so I get to pay more, yay! Even with thtat, it sounds like I need to get some more quotes.

I'm a bit further south than Skully and no snow here either, just had a lot of wind...

$3500!?!?! Holy Crap! I'm in the wrong city! That's fookin' highway robbery!

[sprngfldxj]

Down in SEC, we got our first snow, but didnt stick- that is cool, cause it means we are on the right track!!
Dont like working on the jeep in the cold, but I do like the fun that comes with the Snow and Cold weather.
"You can always add clothes and blankets in the winter, but you can only take off so many clothes in the summer before you get your picture taken and fingerprints done"