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Old November 12th, 2020, 12:01
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My arms provided a night and day improvement in rude quality on rd and washboard rough stuff.

Sfr arms will look very similar just alittle more angle .

Stuff that used to make me cringe with short arms. Is now fun to hit at speed.

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Maybe I'm getting carried away and over-thinking (as usual).
I've already installed drop shackles in the rear and have SRB in hand to get a better shackle angle. This combo will net some lift in the rear and might be a stink-bug look.
Hence the curiosity about what to do up front to level and gain some articulation as well.
Current angle on the JKS adjustable upper control arm is 16* FWIW. I'm still not clear on why these won't work with drop brackets (per Rocky Road, any but stock are too long). I don't know how short the JKS will adjust.

If I go full-tilt-boogie these are my thoughts, for now.

SFR 4-link

https://www.stinkyfab.com/collection...31871076860040

Metalcloak progressive coils, if I need to raise the front. They have them in 3.5", 4.5" and 6" (TJ interchange on the 4.5/6")

https://metalcloak.com/tj-lj-xj-wran...3-5-front.html

Shocks to be determined. Fox? I've had good luck with them.

So Evan, where in Idaho? Some good wheelin' around Jarbidge and NE NV.
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Old November 12th, 2020, 12:12
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Re: Long Arm 'Upgrade'

From StinkyFab:

"If you're trying to decide between either the 3 or 4 link, here's the difference. In THEORY a 3 link will articulate more. It has zero inherent bind and therefore can move more freely. In reality however the limiting factors on any full bodied vehicle are the length of the shocks, size of tires and body clearance.

The 4 link does have some bind in it which is why you don't want to use solid joints like heims, however in basically all situations it is more stable, more predictable and puts power to the ground better. Again, articulation will mainly be limited by the shocks and body, so articulation between the 2 is really going to be the same. The 4 link just performs better all the way around."
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Old November 12th, 2020, 13:05
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If your uppers and lowers are adjustable id throw drop brackets on and run it.

That way youl be able to adjust castor.

Before you put on drop brackets set angle finder on upper ball joint to get a base line#. Reinstall and set arms to match that or slightly more positive if it didn't drive super straight Before doing drop brackets

Theres quite a few trails around idaho

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Old November 12th, 2020, 13:08
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Boise area. Yes jarbidge is neat ive never ran trails there but have loved in a camper working there

Sawtooths, owhees, sand rocks kinda have a mixed bag of terrain here

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With Rocky Road telling me their drop brackets are meant for stock/OEM length control arms I emailed JKS since that's the adj. CA I have.
Reply: "With the JKS arms as short as you can make them, they will be at stock length".

So of course, I'm contacting RR again to see what they say.

$100 more for RR over RE it appears but the RR include the rear 'brace'. Still looking for others if you care to recommend.
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With Rocky Road telling me their drop brackets are meant for stock/OEM length control arms I emailed JKS since that's the adj. CA I have.
Reply: "With the JKS arms as short as you can make them, they will be at stock length".

So of course, I'm contacting RR again to see what they say.

$100 more for RR over RE it appears but the RR include the rear 'brace'. Still looking for others if you care to recommend.
Mixed signals from RR. On the phone was told the above.

Latest email:

"Actually, our CAD kits can work with stock or aftermarket control arms.
Most control arms are designed for a fixed length for 3-4" of lift, if the Jeep has more lift, then even with fixed control arms, our CAD kits work excellent.

That said, adjustable control arms are ideal since you can fine-tune the length of the control arm to compensate for their drop. So it is no problem at all to use our CAD kit with adjustable control arms.

This will work for your setup!"

Their brackets are $240
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Old November 12th, 2020, 19:44
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just or any drop brackets. Your jeep will ride and handle much better
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Old November 12th, 2020, 20:09
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rockyroads web page reads, and looks, like a spam email selling enlargement pills.

Sensationalist claims, bad mouthing other options, and random opinions shown as facts that are there to make you say "yeah, I need that!"

I would never give them a dime. I'd much sooner give it to rough country for drop brackets. I had Rubicon Express's a long time ago... they were great.
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rockyroads web page reads, and looks, like a spam email selling enlargement pills.

Sensationalist claims, bad mouthing other options, and random opinions shown as facts that are there to make you say "yeah, I need that!"

I would never give them a dime. I'd much sooner give it to rough country for drop brackets. I had Rubicon Express's a long time ago... they were great.
That's the Rocky Road I've always known, started with a bad deal 15yrs ago!
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rockyroads web page reads, and looks, like a spam email selling enlargement pills.

Sensationalist claims, bad mouthing other options, and random opinions shown as facts that are there to make you say "yeah, I need that!"

I would never give them a dime. I'd much sooner give it to rough country for drop brackets. I had Rubicon Express's a long time ago... they were great.
Agreed. I'm looking at other brands and trying to find some with support bracket included or at least available option.
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Rubicon express and rough country both make them. Much better choice than rr....

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Looks like Rough Country does have the rear support.

All say 4.5" minimum lift. Looks like new springs might be in order also since my OME is 3.5"

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Old November 12th, 2020, 22:35
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Let's say 3.5" myswell be 4" and damn near 4.5.

Bolt them on whatever lift height your at. The lower the better 3" is perfect get some good flatter arms and much nicer ride then drop brackets on 4-6 lifts.
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Re: Long Arm 'Upgrade'

The RE brackets drop about 3”, so at a 3” lift they’ll get you about stock angles. The braces are not included, but are available.
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The RE brackets drop about 3”, so at a 3” lift they’ll get you about stock angles. The braces are not included, but are available.
Available from where? Looked for 2 days.

Ordered from Rough Country instead.
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