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Old September 26th, 2003, 15:56
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toyota 4 runner

My friend is thinking about selling his XJ for a newer 4 Runner like 98-01. If anyone could please tell me as much info to bash these things as possible I would greatly appreciate it. Stuff about suspension engine, drive train. pleasew give me all the negative info that you know.
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Old September 26th, 2003, 16:00
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98's and newer are automatic shift only. They also got rid of the electric locker for the rear. They were available w/ 4.10 or 4.56 gears stock! IFS front suspension is pricey to lift but way smoother than XJ's. It's just more refined than a Jeep. My buddy has a 97 w/ 4" and 33's and it is a looker. All and all, nice if you can afford em. Just auto's now and all kinds of abs, traction control, blah, blah......trying to compete w/ Land Rovers. Sorry, I didn't have much to bash.

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Old September 26th, 2003, 16:30
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Since this thread does not pertain to modifying an XJ or MJ, it has been moved. This seemed to be the appropriate place for it.

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Old September 26th, 2003, 16:34
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Well it depends on what your buddy wants to do with his SUV, if he has money, money can make just about anything into a serious rockcrawler. Add lockers and gears big tires and go, it might roll a couple times, get dented really good, but it's a toy and a comfortable one at that.

My brother-in-law has an 86' 4Runner, with a solid axle conversion. I support him, birfields and all, I'm sorry to tell you, XJ's are great rigs, but they are not the only ones out there.
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Old September 26th, 2003, 17:54
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So what's wrong with a 4-runner? Any particular reason you don't want your friend to buy a Toyota? Its a jeep thing right?
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Old September 26th, 2003, 18:23
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98's and newer are automatic shift only. They also got rid of the electric locker for the rear. They were available w/ 4.10 or 4.56 gears stock! IFS front suspension is pricey to lift but way smoother than XJ's. It's just more refined than a Jeep. My buddy has a 97 w/ 4" and 33's and it is a looker. All and all, nice if you can afford em. Just auto's now and all kinds of abs, traction control, blah, blah......trying to compete w/ Land Rovers. Sorry, I didn't have much to bash.

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Platzie, a guy in my club has a '99 or '00(pretty sure '00) with a 5 speed and factory locker. Also has the TRD supercharger. He himself has added a bit of lift, a leaf sprung 44 up front and 35 MTRs. I'll try to come up with some pictures. BTW, a lot of people around here would shoot me for saying this, but if I could afford to wheel a toyota, I probably would.

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Old September 26th, 2003, 18:52
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I would take a 4-runner over an XJ any day as a light wheeler/ Daily Driver. Superior drivetrain, NVH, refinement, comfort, ride quality, handling, fit and finish.

Even if I was to build a full tilt off-road rig, I would rather start with the Runner. The 8.0" rear end is very stout, E-lockers are available all the way to 2002, and can handle up to 38's. Yes the IFS is not great, but it's a wash when you consider that it's just as expensive to add a good front axle to a Cherokee. Frame is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH easier to add custom suspension mounts to, and more robust in design in the rear cargo area.

The 4 cam 3.4 is a dream, and with the Toyota supercharger ($1750) it is a screaming animal. 275 hp and 305 ft lbs of torque is awesome, in my view.

The transmissions in XJ's and 4 runners are identical, so it's a wash there.

Have you actually ever been in a Runner?

Remind me again why he shouldn't buy a Runner????????????

CRASH...........Shopoping for a 4 runner for wifey......
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If your friend were to ever, say, take it out on the beach in Nantucket, it would be a lot cooler to have an XJ than a Toyota. Besides, it would be better if he had the same Jeep as his friends, right?
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I have to agree with most of the others; there is little to bash about the 4-runner. If its a Jeep thing that makes ya want to talk him out of it, tell him to at least take a look at the newer Grand Cherokee (WJ) before he makes a final decision. I wasn't too thrilled with getting the wife her WJ, but at least it was a Jeep. Now the thing is kinda growing on me, if ya know what I mean.
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Old September 30th, 2003, 09:38
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Greg, just get your XJ in business and get Peter to come wheeling with us. It's a Jeep thing, let's make him understand!
My roommate and I are planing on Uwharrie in Nov. You down?
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