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Old January 5th, 2010, 21:45
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Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

Hey all... There has been recent debate on what a good snow tire should be... Do you want wide to stay on top of the snow? or narrow to cut through it??

Our XJ's are light for an SUV... I used to have an explorer that was literally TWICE the weight of my new stock XJ! Went wheelin not too long ago in a friends XJ with Mastercraft Courser MTs 33x12.5. (I used the same on my explorer). Needless to say, we got stuck on basically flat ground, with some bumps. So, decided, lets reduce pressure, and "widen" the tires. Didnt seem to help any... Is this a bad thing to do for snow?? there was about 3-4 inches on the ground... powdery stuff...

I dont know if its the light weight of the XJ that made it so bad, or the tires. The tires are great tred... 3/4 still remaining, so that is out. When I had the 3 ton explorer, it did fine with those tires. Infact, seemed to do great.

What are your opinions? Any good experience? Tips for snow wheelin? Thanks guys!
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Old January 5th, 2010, 21:57
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

mt's are no bueno in the snow imo, they dig down too much. lowering pressure is a good idea, the idea is to float on top of the snow. did he even use 4wd to get out of the 3-4" ? i have a set of 33 x10.50's but i havent had a snow expierence with them yet.

tips for snow, loss of traction = a bad thing so never try and get excess wheel spin. never lock up the brakes cause you will lose steering too. drive in the snow like you would the mud. never wheel alone. carry chains for better traction. come prepared with winch or come along or at least a tow strap!
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Old January 5th, 2010, 22:06
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

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never wheel alone. carry chains for better traction. come prepared with winch or come along or at least a tow strap!
agreed. Used come-along and straps that day, and had another driver. 4wd was used, but no lockers... i have a strong feeling that would have been nice haha.
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Old January 5th, 2010, 22:10
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

i think tire width depends on snow depth. if the snow isnt deep skinny tires are better, if its deep, wide tires are better. i had 235/75/15's and i pulled this guy out with 33x12.50's in pretty shallow snow 6-8" tops, but same area different time, this truck on 35 12.50's walked all over my jeep in deeper snow.
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Old January 5th, 2010, 22:25
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

imho skinny is the way to go in the snow or mud. just look at the specs of the "old" jeeps (i.e. what the military used before the "humvee" came along).
i'm running 235/75/15's at the moment, unfortunately they almost bald.

this is what happened in my front yard at a slight grade!





when we lived in pennsylvania we never had to use chains or anything (but i did carry a tow-strap, just in case).
moved down to tennessee (to get away from the snow & cold) & i get stuck in the snow! go figure! lmao
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Old January 5th, 2010, 22:31
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

You would only want wide tires for driving in snow that is soo deep, that if you were to reach the bottom, you would be stuck.

Otherwise, you need skinny tires to sink in to the pavement or mud or gravel you are driving on.
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Old January 6th, 2010, 04:27
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??



Narrow (10.5) Muds doing well in the Dutch snow! Happy new year to you all.

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Old January 6th, 2010, 05:18
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

I use skinny tires. The only time you would want to float would be when the snow is more then 2-3 feet. I like a good all terrain tire with plenty of siping and a block style tread pattern. When the snow is slushy do not cause the tires to spin. It causes ice and you get no traction.

I also drive in snow in a full size van along the Lake Superior shore line. Lake effect snow that I've seen 12-18" of snow on the main roads with this vehicle with no issues. Weight does have some to do with traction also. I keep 600lbs bolted down in the back of the van and 200 lbs in the back of the Jeep strapped down. Tires worn down to 1/2 tread are only used for spring and summer driving here.
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Old January 6th, 2010, 07:06
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

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Narrow (10.5) Muds doing well in the Dutch snow! Happy new year to you all.

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Hey Wim,
Out of curiosity, what depth snow are you usually driving in? How much snow do you all usually get in the Netherlands and what's it looking like this year?
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Old January 6th, 2010, 09:04
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJqso...x=0&playnext=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9MfnKoTM6c&feature=fvw

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Old January 6th, 2010, 15:39
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

Good find Never saw that episode. That is defiantly something I want to do some day...
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

what kind of driving do you want to do?

off road, < = 2' of snow I'd stay with narrow tires, get down to where the traction is
off road, > 2' of snow go wide and hope to float

on the road, narrow, end of story.
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

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what kind of driving do you want to do?

off road, < = 2' of snow I'd stay with narrow tires, get down to where the traction is
off road, > 2' of snow go wide and hope to float

on the road, narrow, end of story.
x2. You also have to think what you terrain you wheel in the other 8 months of the year too. My KM2s have done really well both on road and off in the snow. I'm pretty happy with them. Much better than the old KMs. I haven't had them long enough to get them on the rocks yet, but that will be the majority of my wheeling. I'll sacrifice a bit of performance in the snow it they are that much better in the rocks.

So, good snow and mud tires = skinny.
snow and rocks = wide
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Old January 6th, 2010, 19:33
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

I agree with most here, tall and skinny unless you need flotation. Best snow performance I ever got from anything was on those old bias ply 7.00 x 15 LT's. Skinny, stiff, high profile, with a deep deep tread. They dug in like saw blades.
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Re: Snow Tires... Wide or Narrow??

I'd say the break point is whether the snow is up to your differential
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