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Grant and Ed, here you are.....
I'm out.
Grant and Ed, here you are.....
I'm out.
kreature said:Hey all,
Yes the SCCA officially permitted the XJ as of last summer (ya!)
2003 has been a great learning experience and JeepSpeed East is gearing up for it's first full season in '04. Currently we have only raced at the Rally Park NorthEast in PA but I don't see any reason that we couldn't start competing at other courses around the country.
First off I can't begin to tell you how much fun this is! Not just blasting around this old gravel quarry and catching air on the straight's but the people you compete with are so cool and even the most seasoned racing pro's are very generous sharing racing tricks.
Some of the JeepSpeed East rules are still being worked out as it's a compromise between the original JeepSpeed and the SCCA. Anyone who's thinking about getting involved should know there is two classes (kinda) for rallying. There's the full cage and full sponsorship of JeepSpeed East which permits us to compete in the SCCA ClubRally and then there's the ability to just run with the SCCA under the entry level RallyCross events that is designed to limit top speeds for vehicles without cages.
As this is all fairly new we are looking to get more Jeeps in the competition. I'd be happy to answer any questions I can and whatever I don't know I'll point you in the direction of someone who does.
More info on the SCCA ClubRally and RallyCross:
http://www.scca.org/amateur/performance_rally/index.html
In an effort to keep costs down, increasing the displacement on the 4.0L is not permitted and to be quite honest not very necessary. Before I ran for the first time I was thinking the exact same thing but maintaining traction even on a stock engine with over 150k mi. is a challenge. Fine tuning the suspension is the most important first step then you can get into gearing, lockers and the rest.Weasel said:With the 4.0 you could stroke it and run the open class, right? I think you could be conpetetive but you would need $$.
kreature said:In an effort to keep costs down, increasing the displacement on the 4.0L is not permitted and to be quite honest not very necessary. Before I ran for the first time I was thinking the exact same thing but maintaining traction even on a stock engine with over 150k mi. is a challenge. Fine tuning the suspension is the most important first step then you can get into gearing, lockers and the rest.
So who here is thinking about competing? What were you thinking of running?
CW said:I was thinking about running an 2wd mj with a 2.5L in rally cross, but there aren't many rally crosses around here so I may have to step up to club rally probably Coefficient 1
kreature said:You're out in Idaho, yeah not as many rally races in the west, it's mostly and east coast thing but there are still some if you look around.
MJ that's the pickup version of the XJ right? That should do good, I see allot mini pickups run, nissan toyota S-10's... Maybe just try to get some more weight over the rear. Personally I like 4wd but I started out in rear wheel only, it really helps to slide the rear around until you understand the controlled slide.
Check out the forums on SpecialStage.com, most of the die-hard rally racers are always on there and know a hell of a lot more than me! I'm sure you can find something out your way.
So what is that an auto or 5-speed? Also how much does it weigh.
Oh I was just trying to emphasize a point. Actually I usually LFB (left foot brake) and dance between the brake and gas to maintain the balance of the slide. The dirt rally slide is nothing like an asphalt turn. First, do NOT touch the brake entering a turn or you'll do a nose dive into the trees. Also hitting the gas in a rear wheel drive will kick out the rear but I can take a turn almost twice as fast with the "rally slide".FatXJ said:Kreature explain to me how you rally race and drive through corners without touching the gas or the brake? The way I learned it is to use minimal braking into the corner, then use the weight of the vehicle to get it sideways then hammer the gas through the corner.
This works damn well for me and it's the only way I know how to do it. Maybe I just read you wrong?
Maybe I will see you in a couple years. I am building a CRX Si right now for auto cross and rally racing.