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Old November 24th, 2019, 07:02
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Re: Help picking a MIG frame welder

Your 1st project is going to be challenging for a newb welder ó out of position, dissimilar thickness, hard to see

What helmet are you planning? Donít go cheap ó it does make a difference
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Old November 24th, 2019, 12:05
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Re: Help picking a MIG frame welder

I run a Miller 140 with flux and it has more pop than you'd think. That being said, I'd run 220 if you at all can. Good advice. Hobart/Miller have always been my gotos but I wouldn't hesitate to run a Lincoln or a Forney or Esab, etc. Steer clear of HF stuff -- not because they are inherently bad, but because when it comes to welding, in my opinion, you want to count on those welds holding.
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Old November 24th, 2019, 12:19
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Re: Help picking a MIG frame welder

I would also recommend a 75/25 gas(co2/argon) mix for the thickness of the metal.
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Old November 24th, 2019, 14:16
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Re: Help picking a MIG frame welder

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I would also recommend a 75/25 gas(co2/argon) mix for the thickness of the metal.
You use different gas for thick material? Real question is will he be welding indoors or out. if outside with any wind, OP don't waste your money on gas and regs.

I picked up a 110 volt Forney to learn with. And will be using it for stiffeners vs the 220v Hobart I recently acquired.

Buy once, cry once. get a good machine that can do thick stuff and be turned down for thin stuff like stiffeners/frame rail. Don't be like me and end up with 3 welders.
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Old November 24th, 2019, 14:27
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Different gases are used for different penetrations, the 75/25 is actually used for the thinner materials.
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Old November 24th, 2019, 15:28
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Different gases are used for different penetrations, the 75/25 is actually used for the thinner materials.
maybe. never heard of anyone running a different mix
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Old November 25th, 2019, 23:16
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Re: Help picking a MIG frame welder

I just used my Eastwood 175 mig to do my frame stiffeners and it worked great. If you really wanna stay 110 Eastwood makes a 135 that would be enough for frame stiffeners. Its a very affordable welder as well. A Lincoln 140 would also do the job and is a good stater machine.
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Old December 1st, 2019, 14:43
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Re: Help picking a MIG frame welder

Esab 215 miller 215. Both very good welders.

https://bakersgas.com/products/esabr...pkg-0558102240
I'll probly end up replacing my hobart 180 with one.

I would advice against buying a 110v only unit.

Everlast has some good welders that cost less than the name brands. That will spank any 110only unit.

https://www.everlastgenerators.com/p...ower-i-mig-200

Youl get quite alot for your money by buying everlast but youl only have online support.


This one is a sweet little welder 120/240 mig stick tig plasma cutter all on 1 unit.
https://www.everlastgenerators.com/p...werultra-206pi

The miller 215 doesnt even include the stuff needed for tig it's also now debatable if miller welders are any better than the welders shipped in containers from over seas.
Most likely the welders by miller are cheap China welders in the 1500 and under range.
But sometimes customer support comes with a price tag.

Good luck and have fun with whatever you get. Welding is a very enjoyable hobby.

Ohhh heres the esab wire only.

https://bakersgas.com/products/esabr...der-0558102436
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Old December 1st, 2019, 20:05
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Re: Help picking a MIG frame welder

Just wanted to add when I welded in my pans I purchased the Esab rebel EM215ic. Its dual voltage and works great. As others said buy one that can also do 220v and don't go cheap...as in a cheap made one. Mine had a rebate think out the door was maybe $800. Buy a good helmet and I have noticed a differance between using a good brand wire verses cheap ones...
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Old December 1st, 2019, 20:29
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Re: Help picking a MIG frame welder

Welding machines we can debate on all day long.
110/120 only machines in my opion just dont need to be doing much jeep type welding unless its body work.

Theres definitely a learning curve. Curve will take longer with under powerd machine vs a machine that's very capable.

Youl find all kinds of things to build ounce you get into the learning curve. with the wrong machine you may just become frustrated.
A good machine will help turn you into a rockstar
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Old December 2nd, 2019, 09:26
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Re: Help picking a MIG frame welder

Not to hijack the thread, but I was looking at some of the cyber Monday deals today and saw the Eastwood 250 Mig on sale, does anyone have first had experience with one? Seems to have a great duty cycle and good warranty-https://www.eastwood.com/mig-250-welder-eastwood.html
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Old December 2nd, 2019, 12:54
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Re: Help picking a MIG frame welder

I bought a Vulcan welder May 2018, quick review here:

https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/shop...ar-vulcan.html

That being said: why 110V? Does your garage have a 220V dryer plug? I made an extension chord with 8-3 stranded connected to a dryer plug male on one end, and the NEMA-30 female on the other end for the welder.
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Old December 2nd, 2019, 12:56
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Re: Help picking a MIG frame welder

BTW, tried using 110V for an extended period of time yesterday welding some 1/8" mild steel. Got through about 6 welds before the breaker popped. Annoying.

Most pure 110V welders have weak feed motors and lower duty cycles so they don't pop breakers all the time. Most dual voltage welders just pop breakers on 110V for anything heavier than 14g.
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