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Old February 4th, 2019, 07:12
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Re: Engine swap vs shop

Can you post a picture of the intake manifold?

Sounds like you have the newer intake although I thought that started in 2000 -- Did you have the 0331 head originally?
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Old February 4th, 2019, 07:35
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The 99 intake is the same as 00/01, it's the exhaust that different. On my 2000 I had to use a 0630 gasket with a 98 header to work with my 0630 head.
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Old February 4th, 2019, 11:50
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0630 head originally with 99 intake pictured here
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Old February 4th, 2019, 11:54
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The 99 intake is the same as 00/01, it's the exhaust that different. On my 2000 I had to use a 0630 gasket with a 98 header to work with my 0630 head.
Or maybe no need to worry and just use the gasket that comes with the header?
So 99 intake + 7120 head + header = which gasket
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Old February 4th, 2019, 21:08
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Should be 93094 but it's a crap shoot -- is the exhaust the same on both engines?

On my 2000 I did a 98 grand engine which had the 7120 head and mated it to that intake and the 2000 cali emission exhaust manifold -- I had to use the adapter plate which meant that I made a gasket sandwich -- 94790 gasket against head/ adapter plate/ 93094 gasket/ then the exhaust and intake manifolds all bolted together -- I also used high temp sealant
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Old February 7th, 2019, 20:22
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Re: Engine swap vs shop

Like copper permatex? I had been wondering if its worth it.
New sealed power brass freeze plugs in the mail. I have black rtf, but I've read of people using shellac. I'd either one better?
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Old February 9th, 2019, 07:34
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I believe it was copper permatex — I’ll have to check when I get to the shop
I used the same stuff on the freeze out plugs
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Old February 12th, 2019, 02:24
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If you come by it let me know, spray vs brush on. My freeze plugs are in already with rtv. I still need the back two.

Bolting stuff back on the engine slowly as all the goods arrive in the mail. Still need to index the distributor, header/intake install. New plugs app895, new balancer on, broken bolts are out.

Anyone have any advice on reviewing the condition of my old block? Where to start?


Anyway progress is being made and shouldn't be long before I can install. I do need to pull the Transfer case and crack her open, but mostly it's a put bolts back Game now.
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Old February 12th, 2019, 13:53
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I believe it was copper permatex — I’ll have to check when I get to the shop
I used the same stuff on the freeze out plugs
I did remember to check just forgot to post — ultra copper permatex is what I used

What intake/exhaust gasket ended up being correct?
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Old February 13th, 2019, 02:08
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Just need to rebuilt the mounts and she can go in. I kept the banks gasket actually because it was larger than all the other ports and ide read some don't line up well to after market exhaust.

I did find/use the copper permatex on both sides of the gasket and a coat directly on the block.

I have a new distributor otw as my 99 stock had up/down play, I don't know if that's bad or not, but this crap doesn't happen often and i wanna do this job right.

How do you guys start/tighten the E12 bolts with the trans pointing down, access won't be easy with the intake on, but damn one of those bolts are a pita to get at. Now the e12, I purchased standard hex flange headed bolts, I hope like he'll these thread in ok with the intake on

Much done, much to still do.

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Old February 13th, 2019, 08:06
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Those E12 bolts will stick in the socket on the end of an extension and stay there -- the hex heads probably won't without some assistance

When I did mine those E12's where the 1st out and last in although I didn't tighten anything till all the bolts where started -- I stayed with the E12 and just stuck them on the tool with enough extensions to reach comfortably and hand threaded them in as far as they would go -- enough to know they're not cross threaded

Once tightened up make sure the torque converter spins freely -- should spin easily when not bolted to the flex plate -- this lets you know all is well and lined up properly

That engine is pretty
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I think the E12s are really only a problem for those who are not prepared to encounter them. As long as you have the right tools and aren't trying to work with hardware that someone else buggered up using the wrong tools then you shouldn't have any more problems than would come with another style of fastener.
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Re: Engine swap vs shop

Getting the engine mounts rebuilt today, then I should be good to go on the install.

Any last words of advice from anyone?
-Thus far I'll make some guide pins for the block
- need to make sure the torque converter is seated fully ( I've spun it around a few times while pushing back on it, it's as far as it will go I believe.
- make sure torque converter spins freely once the engine is bolted up, before bolting up the flex plate to the torque converter

Anything else a complete newb won't know?
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Re: Engine swap vs shop

Are fuel injector O-rings supposed to be replaced every time you reinstall?
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Are fuel injector O-rings supposed to be replaced every time you reinstall?



When I ran out of new ones I reused couple that were in good condition. So far so good but...
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