NAXJA Forums -::- North American XJ Association  

Go Back   NAXJA Forums -::- North American XJ Association > NAXJA Unibody Jeep Technical Forums > Jeep Cherokee XJ (1984 - 2001) > OEM Tech Discussion
HOME Member FAQ Sponsor Info Rules Bylaws E-Mail

OEM Tech Discussion Forum for OEM (Original Equipment) or stock XJs and MJs.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old March 16th, 2015, 14:38
beakman's Avatar
beakman beakman is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Rivals, KY
Posts: 3
98, cranks but doesn't start, replaced CPS, code 1694

hi everyone,

Well, somehow I put over 300k miles on my last XJ, and about 200k on this one, and I've never had any real problems with either, other than one starter and alternator on the first, and an alternator on the second.

I went out a couple of weeks ago, and my 98 XJ 4.0/automatic simply wouldn't start. Checked the forums, checked the codes, and figured the CPS was worth a shot. But that didn't do it.

Symptoms:
* cranks like a champ, but doesn't fire
* no spark at the plugs
* fuel pump doesn't prime when key is put in the "on" position
* code 1694 on the OBD
* only the oil pressure gauge moves a little in the "on" position, but they all operate fine if you trigger the gauge test

What I've looked at:
* fuel pump relay checked, all fuses checked
* CPS replaced (as mentioned above)
* wiggled/checked PCM and TCM plugs
* unplugged battery overnight to reset computer

So I'm still seeing 1694. I'll be checking continuity and voltage later. If I rule out wiring problems, what's more likely to need replacing? The TCM or the PCM? I don't want to throw parts at it (especially since I've already thrown a CPS at it), so I'm trying to narrow it down as best I can. Luckily there's a pullapart not too far away, and several XJs being parted out on craigslist, so I can at least try a computer on the cheap if need be.

Thanks in advance to everyone!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old March 16th, 2015, 15:04
Digger87xj's Avatar
Digger87xj Digger87xj is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Buffalo Creek/Lakewood CO
Posts: 2,033
Re: 98, cranks but doesn't start, replaced CPS, code 1694

Most likely the PCM is history.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old March 16th, 2015, 15:40
Tim_MN's Avatar
Tim_MN Tim_MN is offline
Freakish Hand Strength
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 7,718
Re: 98, cranks but doesn't start, replaced CPS, code 1694

P1694 Fault In Companion Module. No CCD/J1850 bus messages received at the power train control module (PCM) from the AisinWarner Transmission Control Module (TCM).

P1694 will set if no CCd bus messages are received from PCM for 20 seconds or invalid messages are received for 20 seconds.

Possible Causes
-Faulty TCM
-CCD Bus (-) circuit open between PCM and TCM.
-CCD Bus (+) circuit open between PCM and TCM.
-Transmission CCD bus wiring damaged.

Wiring issues, PCM wire plug corrosion, one of the CCD Bus 5 volt sensors has failed, or a faulty TCM should be the first suspects.

PCM failure is very highly unlikely.
__________________
.
.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmerjeeper


Go ahead and slam the liftgate down on a blanket, and see how long you are laughing.

Last edited by Tim_MN; January 30th, 2023 at 17:11.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old March 16th, 2015, 16:36
Digger87xj's Avatar
Digger87xj Digger87xj is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Buffalo Creek/Lakewood CO
Posts: 2,033
Re: 98, cranks but doesn't start, replaced CPS, code 1694

I guess the best question to ask is whether the code is being pulled from the pcm or TCM?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old March 18th, 2015, 18:32
Weldingwizard11193's Avatar
Weldingwizard11193 Weldingwizard11193 is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Michigan
Posts: 5
Re: 98, cranks but doesn't start, replaced CPS, code 1694

I have the same issue with my 97, exactly the same. Sat in my shop all winter (it's a toy) went to fire it up and am having all the same issues you listed exactly. Hope someone can give more insight to the problem.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old March 18th, 2015, 18:51
go1lum go1lum is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Michigan
Posts: 671
Re: 98, cranks but doesn't start, replaced CPS, code 1694

I had a similar problem from the fuel pump wire grounding on the axle. Would blow one of the little fuses in the PDC. I think it was a 15A. It would kill my fuel pump and spark.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old March 18th, 2015, 19:03
Weldingwizard11193's Avatar
Weldingwizard11193 Weldingwizard11193 is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Michigan
Posts: 5
Re: 98, cranks but doesn't start, replaced CPS, code 1694

I've been pulling my hair out over it, I can bypass relay and the pump works great
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old March 19th, 2015, 04:23
Tim_MN's Avatar
Tim_MN Tim_MN is offline
Freakish Hand Strength
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 7,718
Re: 98, cranks but doesn't start, replaced CPS, code 1694

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim_MN View Post
Possible Causes
-Faulty TCM
-CCD Bus (-) circuit open between PCM and TCM.
-CCD Bus (+) circuit open between PCM and TCM.
-Transmission CCD bus wiring damaged.

Wiring issues, PCM wire plug corrosion, one of the CCD Bus 5 volt sensors has failed, or a faulty TCM should be the first suspects. PCM failure is rather unlikely.
  1. Unplug the TCM, and see of the CEL clears
  2. Inspect and clean wire harness plugs
  3. Test the TCM wire harness continuity
  4. Test Transmission wire harness continuity.
  5. Unplug each 5 volt sensor on the CCD Bus one at a time, and see of the CEL clears
__________________
.
.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmerjeeper


Go ahead and slam the liftgate down on a blanket, and see how long you are laughing.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old January 29th, 2023, 15:03
W2_ORZEL's Avatar
W2_ORZEL W2_ORZEL is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Płock, PL
Posts: 1
Re: 98, cranks but doesn't start, replaced CPS, code 1694

Quote:
Originally Posted by beakman View Post
hi everyone,
Hello, I know it's old thread, but how this history ended? Does your XJ fired up, and what was the issue?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old January 29th, 2023, 18:08
RCP Phx RCP Phx is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Phoenix,Az
Posts: 16,265
Re: 98, cranks but doesn't start, replaced CPS, code 1694

Quote:
Originally Posted by W2_ORZEL View Post
Hello, I know it's old thread, but how this history ended? Does your XJ fired up, and what was the issue?
He hasn't been on here for 8yrs!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old January 30th, 2023, 17:10
Tim_MN's Avatar
Tim_MN Tim_MN is offline
Freakish Hand Strength
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 7,718
Re: 98, cranks but doesn't start, replaced CPS, code 1694

Quote:
Originally Posted by W2_ORZEL View Post
Hello, I know it's old thread, but how this history ended? Does your XJ fired up, and what was the issue?
Some Do It Yourself is required. Everything I posted in 2015 is still recommended as your first steps in troubleshooting.
__________________
.
.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bimmerjeeper


Go ahead and slam the liftgate down on a blanket, and see how long you are laughing.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
96 XJ - engine died on highway, cranks, doesn't turn over. fsupaintball OEM Tech Discussion 8 July 26th, 2013 14:16
Stuck at work- cranks but doesn't start 87woody-atl OEM Tech Discussion 3 June 18th, 2010 00:36
Jeep cranks but doesn't start. Swampwalker3 OEM Tech Discussion 2 April 1st, 2010 10:09
4.0 stalled on hard right turn, cranks but doesn't fire, no spark. Help fix it! johnsoninc86 OEM Tech Discussion 7 October 19th, 2009 21:47
Code 1698 and 1694 Sonex522 OEM Tech Discussion 7 January 13th, 2009 14:12


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 23:05.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
NAXJA and NAXJA logo's Copyright NAXJA. All content/images Copyright NAXJA 1999-2014