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Old June 14th, 2020, 09:55
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Best rust reversal/treatment products???

I just noticed some rust on my frame-rail/floor-pan above my pass side cross-member. I'd like to address this right a way with the best stuff available.
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Old June 14th, 2020, 10:14
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Old June 14th, 2020, 10:20
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I'm looking at the Eastwood Frame Rail Rust Converter because it has a tube the can spray inside the frame-rail. Maybe something else to spray on exposed areas.
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Old June 14th, 2020, 10:28
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I'm looking at the Eastwood Frame Rail Rust Converter because it has a tube the can spray inside the frame-rail. Maybe something else to spray on exposed areas.
I am assuming you mean the Internal Frame Coating. I used that in my XJ.
Wished I had one of those snake cameras to see what it looked like before and after.
If you use it be careful cause it will seep out in certain areas. Most you won't care about. A couple you will.
Also I moved my rear diff breather. Figured gunking that up would not be a good thing.
I also Fluid Film in there.
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Old June 14th, 2020, 10:51
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I'm looking at the Eastwood Frame Rail Rust Converter because it has a tube the can spray inside the frame-rail. Maybe something else to spray on exposed areas.
Eastwood rust converter is a bad product, I have found it to promote rust. Eastwood is a cheapo mailorder company selling a lot of red chinese tools, the harbor freight of car tools. their coatings are all cheap low quality products.

You are much better off to buy coatings from a real automotive coating company, like 3M, Dupont, PPG, SEM, etc.... These companies spend milions on research, testing for great products. dont skimp on your automotive coatings, run away from Eastwood, their coatings are discount quality at best.

SEM makes some great rust converter products

I have been burned by Eastwood rust converters, discussion with their staff revealed they didnt know what they were selling, and had no clue as to chemistry. They admitted that they had nuerouscustomer complaint for their product, rather than pull the product from sale, they then offered it on half off price sale in the neg catalog they mailed out!

Eastwood is a goodsource for some cheapo red chinese tools, but coating experts the are not, go with the pros, the big names that have been developing coating chemistry for decades, not a mail order discount toll outfit.

Visit your local body shop supply company for real products that work. or use the web to read up on the chemicals.

http://www.semproducts.com/sem-catalog


Keep in mind that you want a system of coatings that work well together. for example, some epoxy paint will not properly cure when used over some acid based rust converters or metal prep.

also note that some converters may not cure if used on areas not rusty.

how bad is your rust?

anyway for coatings, run away from Eastwood, just run fast and far away from them. sure the Eastwood discount 6 piece chinese body hammer kit is ok for home use, but not their chemistry, no way!
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Old June 14th, 2020, 12:49
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Those look like some good products but they don't show anything that could spray "inside" the frame-rail. That's where I want to start, the exposed stuff will be easy to take care of.
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Old June 14th, 2020, 13:00
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Those look like some good products but they don't show anything that could spray "inside" the frame-rail. That's where I want to start, the exposed stuff will be easy to take care of.
I poked around about the SEM products after that post and you can buy the wand for their products to apparently.

https://www.autobodytoolmart.com/pro...yABEgIPTfD_BwE
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Old June 14th, 2020, 14:02
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I'll give them a call tomorrow, but if it is a (stiff) "wand" it wouldn't do me any good.
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Old June 14th, 2020, 14:37
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I just noticed some rust on my frame-rail/floor-pan above my pass side cross-member. I'd like to address this right a way with the best stuff available.
RP-342.

Remove the rust first.
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Re: Best rust reversal/treatment products???

Noxudol makes corrosive resistant cavity wax/ sprays as well.
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Old June 14th, 2020, 14:41
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RP-342.

Remove the rust first.
I've got RP-342 but it is far from being permanent.
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Old June 14th, 2020, 16:24
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Those look like some good products but they don't show anything that could spray "inside" the frame-rail. That's where I want to start, the exposed stuff will be easy to take care of.
I have sprayed SEM products
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I'll give them a call tomorrow, but if it is a (stiff) "wand" it wouldn't do me any good.
Maybe. Maybe not.

Depending on what material it is made of and what pressure the tube needs to withstand you may be able to cut the tube in half and then put it back together with a piece of flexible material. This would be something to inquire about when you call them.
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Old June 14th, 2020, 21:36
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I'll give them a call tomorrow, but if it is a (stiff) "wand" it wouldn't do me any good.
Actually for the uni-body you want it to be stiffer so that it lies straight/flat.
I Fluid Film in there too. And the wand for the spray cans kinda coils.
So I found out that 3M makes a set of wands for their cavity wax.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/MMM0...ordInput=08851

Those lie nice and flat. Problem was those are made for the 3M stuff.
Spray cans comes in 2 different types. Sprayer that has the nozzle that goes in the can and sprayer that attaches to the nozzle that is part of the can.
The 3M is the second one. So to get it to work with Fluid Film, which is the first one, I swapped the sprayer part off a Fluid Film wand on to the 3M wand.
So stiffer so it lies straight/flat and is more then flexible enough.
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Old June 14th, 2020, 21:45
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Oh and before you spray the inside of the uni-body you might want to try this:

https://www.wranglerforum.com/thread...ngler.1219793/

I am guessing you can get a most of the uni-body in an XJ with this method.
I wished I had known about this trick when I spayed the Eastwood stuff in mine.
I power washed and blew it out best I could but feel this extra step would have been a good thing to do to.
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