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I wanna do my own fabrication

LOL, I always seem to find Pandora's box.
 
Just get a 220v machine and forget it. I went threw this about a year ago. I ended up going with a lincoln sp 175T. I've been running it on argon/c02 mix, and .035 wire. With this setup I have welded all kinds of stuff. If this machine won't weld it, my millermatic 35 will.

Ditch the Flux core 110 machines and just buy a 220...you won't regret it.
 
I just bought a 40 amp plasma cutter for $202.50 !! :yelclap:
Can't wait to see what this thing can do.
 
When considering a 220 machine over a 110 machine, you should really look at two factors.

First is Duty Cycle: 110 machines can be used to weld cages. I've done it personally and it's slow going. You weld until the machine essentially shuts down and then you wait until it cools off before you can start again.

Heat for penetration: In most cases you can generate enough heat to weld up to 3/16" safely with the 110v machines if you know how to weld. Some might argue they have welded thicker but take that with a grain of salt. 110v machines typically cannot generate enough heat to weld the thicker stuff although it is possible with multiple passes. If you intend on welding things to your differentials, welding shackle mounts into bumpers, and any other welding that would require thicker material, you probably want a 220 machine.

Hobart or Miller (same company now - Hobart are the ecomony welders and do work well) are good welders and a great starter welder is a 175 - 185 depending on what year machine you buy. They are good middle of the road machines that will last for quite some time. If you wish to step it up a notch, look at the Miller 210 - 212's. They are a production worthy machine that doesn't cost an arm and a leg and is able to weld the thick stuff. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket OR you wish to buy a big dog, look at the Miller 252. I have it's older brother the 250x and it welds like new with many miles on it.

If you're curious, the difference between Miller and Lincon is preference only. I've only had Millers and I like them but there are those that have only had Lincon and feel the same way about them.

The good news is, if you buy a good welder, someone will always buy yours if you no longer need/use it.

Good Luck.
 
For benders and dies:

If you like cages or bumpers, you'll probably want a 1 3/4" die in the 6.5" to 7" radius range. That would be my first die set. The second would likely be 1 1/2" tube in the smallest radius offered. With these two you can build just about anything.

As for a bender, you have to decide how easy you want to make things on yourself. The JD benders and Pro Tools 105 bender are great benders and work very well. I've had both over the years and they work about the same (less gadget differences). Upgrading them to air over hydraulic is possible and doing so will result in a very nice bender and fairly repeatable bends. The downside to this type of bender (manual or air over hydro) is that you must rest the die pin to bend angles larger than ~25% (that's a guess honestly). This can result in repeatability issues (making the same bend twice) as the material can slip, rotate, or basically move when resetting the pin. The upside is that you can bend greater than 180* if you need to.

If you plan on getting a air over hydraulic setup the Pro Tools HB 302 (aka One Shot) is an excellent choice and ends up being less expensive when compared to the other style benders on air/hydro.

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Shown above and found at http://www.pro-tools.com/302.htm, you can start your bend and go up to 110* in a single shot - thus the name one shot. No slippage, no rotation, and no moving because the pin does not need to be rest. they are simple machines and have less wear points when compared to the others. The way the bender operates makes it easier to support the material and start your bend as well.

There are other companies that sell similar machines and it may be worth your time to check out the following sites to compare types of machines and prices:

http://www.pro-tools.com
http://www.tricktools.com

Regarding plasma cutters...different than a welder. You want to buy the biggest one you can afford as the bigger the machine, the faster and cleaner your cut will be. A little 110V machine will have to hack through 1/8" and a (220 amp example) Powermax 1000 can cut 1/8" about as fast as you can move your torch. Anyone who has used both can tell you the difference.

Basic other fab tools will be required. I can't live without my 4.5" angle grinder. A chop saw can work but a small bandsaw works better (less sparks, noise, and health issues). A torch is a good idea as you'll always have to cut something off (if you don't have a plasma). A drill hand drill can work with a vise but a drill press is much better and safer.

Good luck. Years ago I started with a chop saw, a torch, a 110v welder, and a 4.5" angle grinder. You have to start somewhere.
 
Thanks, I've actually ordered and received the metal fabricators hand book and the bend-tech pro software. The book seems to have alot of good information. The software takes some getting used to but I think I'll learn to like it. Now just need to get home and start doing some hands on stuff.
 
_MURDERED OUT_ said:
I just bought a 40 amp plasma cutter for $202.50 !! :yelclap:
Can't wait to see what this thing can do.

where did you get that and what is it you lucky dog?
 
IMHO fcaw machine burns to hot for thin sheet metal I would rather a 220 gas mig for sheet metal I have an Amazon special 160 a 110v. I bought to build my smoker and it was plenty hot enough to weld a propane tank and definitely up to burning 5/16 together permanently
 
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