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Old September 27th, 2017, 02:27
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Wack's D44 Build 1996 xj



Knuckle back from machining, ball joints pressed in, steering arms on, diff and tubes resealed


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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:11
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to accommodate the high steer arm i had to install a longer pitman arm to still get a turning radius. this is what hurt my ability to push the axle forward without moving the steering gear. like i said, your results will vary, but it was an issue i had. i also was willing to give up zero up travel.

Have you considered running a Chevy Astro steering box? It's what I had to do on my S10 when I went to this axle.

It's reverse rotation, so the pitman comes forward off the box. (I can't recall if the XJ is the same way, but I don't think it is or else I'd have used one of the 4 boxes I have laying around).
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-90 XJ 4.0, AW4, 231J: Clayton's longarms, RE 5.5" coils, hybrid 6" leaf pack, 33/12.50/15" MTs, Rancho 99012s and 99624s, Tera HD SYE, custom sliders, BW flares. Rehabbing with D44s, RE spring packs, RE 4.5" coils, and ACOS.
-94 ZJ: Budget boost, 31s. The wife's DD.
-97 XJ: Son's DD. 4" lift, ACOS, 4" spring pack, Upcountry coils, 31s
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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:17
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I had a 94 s10 with Ford d44/9”. It got an Astro box with forward facing arm. I haven’t shot the sight lines yet, but the geometry appears to work. The high steer arm is close to stock knuckle proximity; Depending on how far that tierod pushes forward.


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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:19
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Got billet arms, GM TREs, seals, drive shaft joint, and ball joints. Knuckle getting sent out to WFO. Called 5 machine shops in the MD region and no one wants to do it. JB Machine in White Marsh MD did my last one, but their price escalated and they're 2-3 weeks out. Minor setback but what can you do


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Bonzpartz off of Ebay did mine and I got my arms from them as well. Very happy indeed.
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-90 XJ 4.0, AW4, 231J: Clayton's longarms, RE 5.5" coils, hybrid 6" leaf pack, 33/12.50/15" MTs, Rancho 99012s and 99624s, Tera HD SYE, custom sliders, BW flares. Rehabbing with D44s, RE spring packs, RE 4.5" coils, and ACOS.
-94 ZJ: Budget boost, 31s. The wife's DD.
-97 XJ: Son's DD. 4" lift, ACOS, 4" spring pack, Upcountry coils, 31s
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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:21
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Bonzpartz off of Ebay did mine and I got my arms from them as well. Very happy indeed.


I went with WFO. Md to Ca and back in 9 days. $65. And they even pressed out my old BJs. Machining looks great, threaded in studs by hand. Clean taps. Shipping was an additional $13 each way USPS


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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:22
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I had a 94 s10 with Ford d44/9”. It got an Astro box with forward facing arm. I haven’t shot the sight lines yet, but the geometry appears to work. The high steer arm is close to stock knuckle proximity; Depending on how far that tierod pushes forward.


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Very cool.

Between the Dodge Dakota springs and going SOA with the Astro box, my tie rod and drag link are almost exactly parallel (in the horizontal) at ride height. Vert is another matter- looking down from above them, they aren't anything like parallel, but I am not aware of this having any impact on handling.
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-90 XJ 4.0, AW4, 231J: Clayton's longarms, RE 5.5" coils, hybrid 6" leaf pack, 33/12.50/15" MTs, Rancho 99012s and 99624s, Tera HD SYE, custom sliders, BW flares. Rehabbing with D44s, RE spring packs, RE 4.5" coils, and ACOS.
-94 ZJ: Budget boost, 31s. The wife's DD.
-97 XJ: Son's DD. 4" lift, ACOS, 4" spring pack, Upcountry coils, 31s
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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:22
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I went with WFO. Md to Ca and back in 9 days. $65. And they even pressed out my old BJs. Machining looks great, threaded in studs by hand. Clean taps. Shipping was an additional $13 each way USPS


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About the same with Bonzpartz. Glad you got it done.

Yes, I'm going to be copying your work here, when I get my 90 back on the road.
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-89 S-10: SAS, D44s front/rear. 5.7L V8. 700R4 with 4L60E upgrades. Built in my driveway.
-90 XJ 4.0, AW4, 231J: Clayton's longarms, RE 5.5" coils, hybrid 6" leaf pack, 33/12.50/15" MTs, Rancho 99012s and 99624s, Tera HD SYE, custom sliders, BW flares. Rehabbing with D44s, RE spring packs, RE 4.5" coils, and ACOS.
-94 ZJ: Budget boost, 31s. The wife's DD.
-97 XJ: Son's DD. 4" lift, ACOS, 4" spring pack, Upcountry coils, 31s
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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:24
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Knuckle back from machining, ball joints pressed in, steering arms on, diff and tubes resealed


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So looks like you took the Chevy axle and retubed it to move it to a driver's side drop? I assume you set it up for Waggy shaft lengths?

How much trouble did you have R&Ring the tube?
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-90 XJ 4.0, AW4, 231J: Clayton's longarms, RE 5.5" coils, hybrid 6" leaf pack, 33/12.50/15" MTs, Rancho 99012s and 99624s, Tera HD SYE, custom sliders, BW flares. Rehabbing with D44s, RE spring packs, RE 4.5" coils, and ACOS.
-94 ZJ: Budget boost, 31s. The wife's DD.
-97 XJ: Son's DD. 4" lift, ACOS, 4" spring pack, Upcountry coils, 31s
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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:26
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Very cool.



Between the Dodge Dakota springs and going SOA with the Astro box, my tie rod and drag link are almost exactly parallel (in the horizontal) at ride height. Vert is another matter- looking down from above them, they aren't anything like parallel, but I am not aware of this having any impact on handling.

Probably will end up grabbing an Astro box and 2.5” drop arm. This is the Ruff Stuff rendering, forward facing pitman for sure, since my draglink TRE connection @ arm will now be about 2” further out than the stock inverted Y setup.






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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:28
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So looks like you took the Chevy axle and retubed it to move it to a driver's side drop? I assume you set it up for Waggy shaft lengths?



How much trouble did you have R&Ring the tube?


No that’s a waggy d44 housing. Stock length 300m shafts. Just used the flat top knuckles from GM D44. Will be using FSJ D44 spindles outbound. They are the bigger spindle shaft, compared to the small lip design on the GM 6 bolt spindles.


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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:34
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Probably will end up grabbing an Astro box and 2.5” drop arm. This is the Ruff Stuff rendering, forward facing pitman for sure, since my draglink TRE connection @ arm will now be about 2” further out than the stock inverted Y setup.






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This is almost exactly my setup on the S10. Except I'm running a flat arm, and need one with about 1" of drop (or a pitman-side TRE with a side-mounted Zerk), and a little bit longer.

Honestly, I just need to get out there and align it properly, first. I found out the other day I am about 15deg out on the pitman alignment. Fix that and assess from there.
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-90 XJ 4.0, AW4, 231J: Clayton's longarms, RE 5.5" coils, hybrid 6" leaf pack, 33/12.50/15" MTs, Rancho 99012s and 99624s, Tera HD SYE, custom sliders, BW flares. Rehabbing with D44s, RE spring packs, RE 4.5" coils, and ACOS.
-94 ZJ: Budget boost, 31s. The wife's DD.
-97 XJ: Son's DD. 4" lift, ACOS, 4" spring pack, Upcountry coils, 31s
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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:37
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No that’s a waggy d44 housing. Stock length 300m shafts. Just used the flat top knuckles from GM D44. Will be using FSJ D44 spindles outbound. They are the bigger spindle shaft, compared to the small lip design on the GM 6 bolt spindles.


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OK, that's what I'm running. Literally the only Chevy parts on my axle are the flattop knuckles. Everything else is from the stock axle.

I am fortunate to have made a friend on the old S10Extremists forum that is a font of knowledge on this sort of stuff. I'm always asking him what this or that idea sounds like to him. This is what's lead me to running true duals (next project) down the PAX side, with the mufflers stood vertical and an h-pipe. I suck at coping tubing and have been putting off construction of a new exhaust y-pipe. This will avoid that problem, and allow me to run 2-1/2" pipe thoughout without constriction on the motor.
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-90 XJ 4.0, AW4, 231J: Clayton's longarms, RE 5.5" coils, hybrid 6" leaf pack, 33/12.50/15" MTs, Rancho 99012s and 99624s, Tera HD SYE, custom sliders, BW flares. Rehabbing with D44s, RE spring packs, RE 4.5" coils, and ACOS.
-94 ZJ: Budget boost, 31s. The wife's DD.
-97 XJ: Son's DD. 4" lift, ACOS, 4" spring pack, Upcountry coils, 31s
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Old September 28th, 2017, 16:05
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Re: Wack's D44 Build 1996 xj

im a md guy too, in annapolis. where do you reside ? when its done we should do some wheeling together somewhere sometime.
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Old October 1st, 2017, 07:15
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im a md guy too, in annapolis. where do you reside ? when its done we should do some wheeling together somewhere sometime.


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Old November 6th, 2017, 16:50
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Made a little progress. Had to work on door hinges and new brake lines, but was able to get rear pinion angle set and truss welded on. Currently trying to source a 2wd Astro box and wagoneer pitman arm. The XJ is too much drop. Fabricated a track bar, bushed dom on one side, chromoly 7/8” heim on the other.








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