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Old June 21st, 2018, 13:52
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Battery Op. Power tools recommendation.

Currently using Milwaukee 28v lithium ion drill and sawzall. Ive been using this set for over a decade, still works great, but the batteries are going bad slowly. Won't last as long as they used to....

So I think it's time to consider other options since a pair of new batteries runs about $200.

I need the following tools, and would like ones that work well....and have a future.

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Cutoff wheel (optional)
1/2 impact (optional)

The more of the options, the better of course.
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Old June 21st, 2018, 19:47
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Re: Battery Op. Power tools recommendation.

I've been really happy with my Makita stuff. Been using the 18v li-ion drills and impact drivers for years, recently added the 36v chainsaw and circular saw which use two 18v batteries. They have a 36v sawzall and grinder/cutoff tool as well, and some pretty decent impacts in the 18v line.
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Old June 21st, 2018, 20:19
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Re: Battery Op. Power tools recommendation.

I also have a set of the V28 tools. Well more than just a set. I actually have two drills. That netted me 4 batteries and two chargers so that I could keep my workflow going.

Like yours, my batteries have pretty much expired. I can limp my way along with the two chargers working, but nothing like the way they used to be.

Last year for Father's Day I got 1 new battery. Just that has made a huge difference.

I am thinking that in another year or so I should buy another battery. Kind of stagger them out.

I really don't want to give up the 28 volt tools. I have never used any other cordless saw that has come anywhere near the performance. The RPMs/surface speed just aren't there with the lower voltages.

However, I will say that for driving screws my joints much prefer that I use lighter tools. Using the 28 volt drills all day long is murder on my elbows/shoulders.
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Old June 22nd, 2018, 06:17
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Re: Battery Op. Power tools recommendation.

Went Dewalt mostly because of the absurd breakaway torque of the 1/2 impact. Got a drill as well to keep with the same battery system. Both work like champs and have no concerns about longevity.
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Old June 22nd, 2018, 11:44
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Re: Battery Op. Power tools recommendation.

That's kind of funny....the 2 I was really considering were Dewalt and Makita.

The power of their impacts could be a decision maker.

And as for the V28 stuff I have....it's not going anywhere, I just hope to rely on it less. And don't really want to buy more of it due to the extreme cost.
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Re: Battery Op. Power tools recommendation.

Pretty sure Interstate Battery rebuilds battery packs. There is one on E st. in San Bernardino.
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Re: Battery Op. Power tools recommendation.

That's worth looking into, may be cheaper....but I still need more tools.
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....but I still need more tools.
Goes without saying.
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Pretty sure Interstate Battery rebuilds battery packs. There is one on E st. in San Bernardino.
Rebuilding lithiums is another ballgame.

I have had Nicad/NiMh packs rebuilt, but no one has been willing to tackle my V28 packs. Or at least not tackle them with any assurance of getting an operational pack back to me. I had one company that was willing to try taking them apart to see what could be done, but I don't really want to be the guinea pig.
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Rebuilding lithiums is another ballgame.

I have had Nicad/NiMh packs rebuilt, but no one has been willing to tackle my V28 packs. Or at least not tackle them with any assurance of getting an operational pack back to me. I had one company that was willing to try taking them apart to see what could be done, but I don't really want to be the guinea pig.
I did, it appears they can be rebuilt with only minor difficulty. The hardest part is separating the spot welds of the conductors at each end of the individual batteries inside...and then how do you reconnect the new ones?
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Re: Battery Op. Power tools recommendation.

They are reconnected with as special spot welder that doesn't heat up the battery unlike soldering would. It isolates the heat to just the caps on the ends.
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Re: Battery Op. Power tools recommendation.

Not a recommendation: generic NiCad and Lithium ion batteries packs for a wide range of Mfgs are available on Ebay for really good pricing.
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I did, it appears they can be rebuilt with only minor difficulty. The hardest part is separating the spot welds of the conductors at each end of the individual batteries inside...and then how do you reconnect the new ones?
I think there are also issues with resetting their chips/computers/whatever is the electronic side of them.

If I understand correctly they have some kind of controller on board that has some sort of algorithm for performance expectations, and if you put in new cells that needs to be told to start all over again. I think that is a bigger issue than is replacing the cells themselves.
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Re: Battery Op. Power tools recommendation.

Yes, there are electronics/controller? inside.
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Re: Battery Op. Power tools recommendation.

Old thread, I know. The 28 volt stuff was just going to be too heavy for my arms and my needs. Santa and my boss provided some seed money. I ended up biting the bullet, err...artillery shell and replaced my old Craftsman stuff with M18 Fuel. Nice range of available battery sizes. I don't need to put a 12 Ah battery pack in my drill when I'm drilling 1/8-in holes. But it will be handy in the sawzall for Adopt-A-Trail work. The large impact wrench is a beast!

The Craftsman C3 set I've been using for years held up really well, I was surprised. But it was reaching its end of life. The final straw was trying to break a lug nut loose on my eclipse, my half inch impact was just trying to scare the lug nut. Borrowed the neighbor's small Milwaukee impact, and zip, off it came. Not sure which version he has, though. But that was a kicker.
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