crank-crank-crank-crank-cra... [wait...] crank-crank-START!

[iBran]

Originally Posted by Alienspecimen

Wait...
I have something to say.
I think that your tip about being rearended gave it away and this might stop this nasty "Jeep thing" rumors.
I had longer starting times recently. It started after my hanger on the back, right where the muffler is rusted out and the whole back end of the exhaust was not supported and was vibrating slightly. Fixed it and that fixed my problem.
Apparently loose exhaust system can cause longer starting times.
Boris

No way! I'll have to look at that... I know I have not just one, but TWO broken hangers. I've been meaning to fix those, too, but my priority is the pump. I'll give the exhaust a good lookover while I'm working on the pump.. I know I need a new muffler anyway

[muduck18]

Originally Posted by Alienspecimen

Wait...
I have something to say.
I think that your tip about being rearended gave it away and this might stop this nasty "Jeep thing" rumors.
I had longer starting times recently. It started after my hanger on the back, right where the muffler is rusted out and the whole back end of the exhaust was not supported and was vibrating slightly. Fixed it and that fixed my problem.
Apparently loose exhaust system can cause longer starting times.
Boris

snif snif snif ..... Bull $h1T


so when the jeep is warm it the tail pipe holds still on it's own... or does the trunk monkey come out and grab it for you?

[Vertisce]

I had that issue when I first bought my Jeep...thought it might be an electrical issue...bad ground or whatever. Turned out to be a bad starter though.

[Alienspecimen]

Originally Posted by muduck18

snif snif snif ..... Bull $h1T


so when the jeep is warm it the tail pipe holds still on it's own... or does the trunk monkey come out and grab it for you?

I looked first for a weather pattern, but did not find any...then noticed that the louder the rattle at start, the longer the starting times. Mounted a new hanger and problem solved. My mechanic tried to give me the scientific explanation, but it went over my head, coz I am still learning RI accent and I did not care that much, anyway...things behave differently when hot.
Boris

[muduck18]

I am sorry, No offence, but the muffalar system doesn't swing differntly when it's hot. and yes the jeep will start differntly when its warm.

BUT.....
there is absolutly NO connection between the delayed start so notorius in the 4.0 and the rear tailpipe bracket. There are three other brackets to hold that beast in place...
for two weeks my header went straight out the side of my passenger side of my jeep... no problems starting.

your RI mechanic needs to call me and explain his theory to me before I will change my BS claim on that one...

in the mean time...

[Alienspecimen]

I don't know what he did. All I cared at the time was that he would charge me $30 (and he is not exactly cheap) for parts and installation and the dealer's price was $48 for the part only. It looks different, but it works... and it is getting the POR-15 treatment tomorrow.
I will ask him again and would let you know, this time I will listen more closely My wife's car needs some minor work.
Boris
P.S. My starting times were never longer than three seconds