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Old August 31st, 2018, 21:32
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Oil filter adapter/ pan gasket replacement

Looking for some clarity on the adapter O rings. I've read there are three and many time when you order them you only get two or the wrong size, Anybody get brands that work?

Will this wrench likely fit?
https://www.amazon.com/Bondhus-31860..._1535776230333


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Old September 1st, 2018, 06:18
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Re: Oil filter adapter/ pan gasket replacement

That wrench wont work unless you jack the motor up.
I used a stubby torx that I could put a wrench on. I think it was https://www.amazon.com/Z-Red-T1000-T.../dp/B009PJPFB6

For the oil rings I tried the local autoparts store ones and within the week I ended up replacing them with Mopar# 4720363
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Old September 1st, 2018, 06:54
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Re: Oil filter adapter/ pan gasket replacement

For the wrench, what you want is something more like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Apex-Utica-T-...T60+insert+bit

You can buy that by itself, or it is probably cheaper to buy a T60 1/2" drive socket and punch the bit out of the socket.

Slip a box end wrench over the hex drive of the socket and add a cheater to that.

For the O-rings I simply ordered the Mopar kit. I saved my old ones intending to go the hardware store and figure out which size each one is, but I have never gotten around to doing that.

For making darn sure the O-rings seal , I bought a tube of this: https://www.amazon.com/Dow-Corning-R.../dp/B00CTUJNU2

People can argue about whether or not that is necessary. For less than $20 I could not see a reason not to do it.
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Re: Oil filter adapter/ pan gasket replacement

bimmerjeeper has an in-depth and highly entertaining thread on replacing the oil filter adapter O-rings. https://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1093343. While you are researching, you should read his O2 sensor change thread also. Don't be a bimmerjeeper, do some research, and enlighten yourself.
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Old September 1st, 2018, 13:50
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bimmerjeeper has an in-depth and highly entertaining thread on replacing the oil filter adapter O-rings. https://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1093343. While you are researching, you should read his O2 sensor change thread also. Don't be a bimmerjeeper, do some research, and enlighten yourself.
much appreciated, I havent seen this thread yet!



is it good to get the engine to a solid temp before trying to pull this bolt, I dont want to have any issues with it being stuck lol?
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Old September 2nd, 2018, 09:31
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much appreciated, I havent seen this thread yet!



is it good to get the engine to a solid temp before trying to pull this bolt, I dont want to have any issues with it being stuck lol?
I don't think it will hurt, but I also doubt it will make much of a difference. As others have pointed out, your best bet will be to knock the Torx bit out of a T60 socket that's built like that and slip a box end wrench over it. When I did mine, the size I needed was 12mm as I recall.

I do HIGHLY RECOMMEND using a 6-point/hex box end wrench instead of the seemingly more common 12-point box end wrench to reduce the chances of the wrench slipping. That's what I used when I did mine, and even then the fit was kinda loose. Plus, I had to resort to slipping a cheater pipe over the wrench to get that dang bolt loose. It was loads of fun, but I got it.
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Re: Oil filter adapter/ pan gasket replacement

Well I have a t60 socket laying around so that should work. I guess I'll call Mopar for the o rings. I thought I read Mopar discontinued stocking these, but I'll check.
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Well I have a t60 socket laying around so that should work. I guess I'll call Mopar for the o rings. I thought I read Mopar discontinued stocking these, but I'll check.



Oh your poor naive soul, thinking that little allen-wrench would work. :}



When I did the ZJ, I started with just the torx bit and actually stripped out the teeth in the box end wrench. I ended up welding the torx socket itself into a bigger box wrench and using a cheater bar while someone else pried against the head with a lever so it didn't slip out. That one was a bugger!


Having tried to match the o-rings from a generic kit and having it leak again, I'll second getting the correct set. I think the last set I used was the Crown Automotive set. https://www.amazon.com/Crown-Automot.../dp/B009X1QCF4
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Re: Oil filter adapter/ pan gasket replacement

Wranglers use the same o-ring kit, the Dealership still had them a year or two ago. Genuine Chrysler Part # 1-04720363

Use an Allen, OTC, or Craftsman T60 socket and 6 point box end wrench. Cheap tools are cheap for a reason.
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Old September 3rd, 2018, 00:39
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Re: Oil filter adapter/ pan gasket replacement

[QUOTE=lawsoncl;246604000]Oh your poor naive soul, thinking that little allen-wrench would work. :}



hahaha If I gave the impression for anyone to use that alone, Please dont lol

I usually use the top of a jack handle for a cheater and planned on that being a must for this job.


Tim ill take your advice and get a good torx socket.


Mainly this job seems simple, but I do not want a broken bolt in a block. Ive never read about anyone applying heat to this bolt before pulling it, Why not? if everyone has this much trouble getting it out, Rounding out A box end WRENCH, Damn. Thats a first to hear about.

Is that bastard really in there that bad or should I just plan on having to have a good cheater and be ready to pull? This is high on the every growing fix it list so that I can rule out the RMS if its not bad.

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I can't see heat doing you much good. Where you need the heat is on the block where the threads are, but in order to get heat there you would first have to remove the oil filter adapter. And of course you have to remove the bolt in question first before you can remove the oil filter adapter. Unless you want to carefully cut out the adapter just so you can have the pleasure of applying heat where you want it and then gracefully remove the bolt.

This is just a brute force job.

If you want to play it safe you could take your tools to a junkyard and practice on a vehicle or two there. Maybe bring back a spare bolt and adapter for just in case you damage your own.

Once you get a T-60 bit solidly seated in that bolt with a good quality wrench in place (I used a 12mm Gear Wrench) and a cheater pipe on it you will probably have that thing broken loose in a minute. Add a couple more minutes for working that bolt all the way back out (mine was pretty stiff all the way, courtesy of the O-rings) and you will have the little mess in your hands. It will take you longer to clean it up than in took to remove it.
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Re: Oil filter adapter/ pan gasket replacement

I did the job with the engine warm from driving. I still had to use a cheater bar, but once the thread lock compound came loose, it was easy.
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Old September 3rd, 2018, 09:19
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Your making to much of this. The Felpro kits that I have gotten from Oreily's has always fit. A Torx socket on a flex-head ratchet will make quick work of this.
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Mainly this job seems simple, but I do not want a broken bolt in a block. Ive never read about anyone applying heat to this bolt before pulling it, Why not? if everyone has this much trouble getting it out, Rounding out A box end WRENCH, Damn. Thats a first to hear about.

is that bastard really in there that bad or should i just plan on having to have a good cheater and be ready to pull? this is high on the every growing fix it list so that i can rule out the RMS if its not bad.
The worst that can happen is stripping the hole at the end of the retainer (it's a tube, not a bolt).

I went a little different route by using a 3/8 drive Torx and grinding flats on it. I kept it seated with a pry bar while applying evil amounts of force.

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Re: Oil filter adapter/ pan gasket replacement

Called Mopar for the part, 44$ they said. holy S$$T for 3 gaskets!!!
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