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Old February 13th, 2013, 12:42
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Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

I run a heavy rig full of people and stuff.

Here's my choices of upgrade parts that I recently got a quote for from a local parts place:

-RE 3.5" full leaf superride kit
-RE adj. trackbar
-Bilstein 5100 shocks
-Currie Correctlink HD steering.

This will completely upgrade my previously installed bastid packs that I've run for a couple years, and my tired steering setup.

I've already got JKS quicker's installed that will allow me to delete the RE ones. Also, the adj trackbar seems to be the upgrade of choice, to avoid having to re-drill the factory hole, correct?

This rig is 90% highway, 10% off-highway doing chores on our land, with a plan to run the rubicon either this year or next year, with a Moab trip possible in 2014 as well.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 13:41
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

You want the RE1660 track bar and RE1665 bracket.

You'll want an adjustable trackbar so you don't have to drill the axle side bracket. Both the 1600 and 1660 track bars are adjustable, however the 1600 requires you to drill the stock frame side bracket and it's single shear. I've never been able to keep mine tight. I just ordered the 1660 and bracket this week. I started with the same kit you're looking at.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 13:52
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

I have a bracket i can make a deal on
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Old February 13th, 2013, 19:02
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

Ohhh-kay...near perfect list of parts, apparently. Thanks for the track bar and bracket part numbers, Brent.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 19:12
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

Has RE completely resoved the Super-ride bushing problems?
My old set of Supr-ride CAs ate bushings.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 19:24
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

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Has RE completely resoved the Super-ride bushing problems?
My old set of Supr-ride CAs ate bushings.
Winna-Winna...thanks for chiming in, sir. That's the kind of info I'm trying to double check...

I like what I like, and have heard they're good to go since RE re-opened, but I don't want to be a guinea pig.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 19:35
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

I agree with everything but.. get a Rockkrawler Trackbar system or clayton, they use larger hardware!
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Old February 13th, 2013, 19:44
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

As far as expeditions, that will depend on your wheels, axles and gears.

I have installed the same kit and was not happy with ride and steering.

Ended up changing the shackles to JKS (factory were standing straight as the Rubicon springs are short).

Ended up changing the coils to 4.5" so the lift was more even.

Ended up adding LCA drop brackets to improve ride in front and for better steering. Naturally this had to come with adjustable LCAs and UCAs (IRO).

Changed the Rubicon disconnects to JKS.

Had to move the sway bar, as the disconnects were touching the coils.

Added the 1685 bracket.

Added a better tie rod.

Would have been cheaper to get a better lift from the start (and long arms).
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Old February 13th, 2013, 19:58
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

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As far as expeditions, that will depend on your wheels, axles and gears.

I have installed the same kit and was not happy with ride and steering.

Ended up changing the shackles to JKS (factory were standing straight as the Rubicon springs are short).

Ended up changing the coils to 4.5" so the lift was more even.

Ended up adding LCA drop brackets to improve ride in front and for better steering. Naturally this had to come with adjustable LCAs and UCAs (IRO).

Changed the Rubicon disconnects to JKS.

Had to move the sway bar, as the disconnects were touching the coils.

Added the 1685 bracket.

Added a better tie rod.

Would have been cheaper to get a better lift from the start (and long arms).
1.Ride would be better with the Bilsteins as mentioned
2.The JKS shackles aren't going to change the shackle angle(for the better), however a shackle relocaters will.
3.You had your JKS discos adjust wrong, you need to add more length
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Old February 13th, 2013, 20:16
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

I believe that the newer RE1660HD TB comes with the larger sleeve/bushing for the axle side. Mine was an older one that had the 10mm or whatever stock was. You can use either bushing, they are sub 10$ typically. Before I got my deal on my 1660hd/brace I was running a 1600 with a modified stock bracket in double sheer. No issues. If you choose to go with the cheaper TB I would still recommend some some sort of double sheer bracket, whether it be RE, clayton, or modified.
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

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I like what I like, and have heard they're good to go since RE re-opened, but I don't want to be a guinea pig.
After the poor experience I had with Superride bushings, I would want to give RE a few years to prove themselves with their 'improved' bushings.
Stock arms have bushings at both end but they can also twist, something the Superride CAs can't do. They make up the movement by distorting the rubber bushings even more. That's why many prefer at least one flex joint in each arm.
Upgrading to CAs with flex joint (R.E., Currie, etc) would be a good move IMO. Another option is JKS's CAs that still have rubber bushings but twist in the middle on HD screws. I have run a mix, JKS LCAs and RE Superflex UCAs, for over 50,000 miles without any part failures. The Superflex joints do require adjusting periodically but isn't a big deal with the right spanner (mine is a simple homemade one). There are a lot of good arms on the market.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 06:08
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

Yes the bushing issue was resolved some time ago.

The new PT-MEG Super-Ride bushings are covered by RE's Lifetime Warranty.
See page 84 of the following.
http://www.rubiconexpress.com/info/catalog.aspx

And support your vendors!
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Old February 14th, 2013, 09:46
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

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After the poor experience I had with Superride bushings, I would want to give RE a few years to prove themselves with their 'improved' bushings.
Stock arms have bushings at both end but they can also twist, something the Superride CAs can't do. They make up the movement by distorting the rubber bushings even more. That's why many prefer at least one flex joint in each arm.
Upgrading to CAs with flex joint (R.E., Currie, etc) would be a good move IMO. Another option is JKS's CAs that still have rubber bushings but twist in the middle on HD screws. I have run a mix, JKS LCAs and RE Superflex UCAs, for over 50,000 miles without any part failures. The Superflex joints do require adjusting periodically but isn't a big deal with the right spanner (mine is a simple homemade one). There are a lot of good arms on the market.

part number RE3715 is an adj. Superride lower control arm. It would give the ride of rubber (he-he), with the twist-ability of the stock arms just like the JKS's do.

Interesting choice, IMO.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 11:36
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

This is also on my next to do on Rig list. Adjustable tracbar, Tie rod combo.
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Old February 19th, 2013, 08:38
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Re: Suspension choices. Ready to pull the trigger. :)

OK, so I'm going to add these to the parts list:

HD Track Bar - RE1660,
HD Track Bar double shear bracket -RE1665
HD Track Bar cross member - RE1670

I want to have a bombproof setup, that will handle years of daily driving and any kind of wheeling trip I have time for without question on locked 33's.

I'm gettin' excited.
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