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Old April 13th, 2018, 12:54
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beadlocks: weld-on vs $$$

Picked up a set of waggy 44s. Then picked up a set of 37s. was going to wait until fall/winter to start working on them but now that I've got a good sized parts pile, I'm getting antsy to get them torn down, regeared, trussed, locked and under the jeep.

Still got a few things I need to get sorted out before I get cracking on it, but started looking at beadlocks. Thought I would weld a set of rings onto a 17" steel wheel. 17x9 wheels are around 90'ish plus another 100 per wheel give or take for the rings and hardware. Or pay 350'ish per wheel for Trail Ready or similar beadlocks.

Any downside to weld on beadlocks? I do know the weld has to be good and sit flush with the lip of the wheel and obviously hold air. Other than that, is there any difference in building a set vs buying them? The beadlock rims (Trail Ready)these tires came off of left the tires in perfect shape, bead not deformed at all. That's how I want these to work as well.

what's your experience with weld ons? or should I pony up for good rims?
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Old April 13th, 2018, 13:09
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Re: beadlocks: weld-on vs $$$

You would get out of it, what you put into it! What all equipment do have to do the job?
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Old April 13th, 2018, 13:15
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Re: beadlocks: weld-on vs $$$

110 flux core welder. actively looking for a hobart 140 so I can use gas. done a few projects with it but probably wouldn't use it for welding on rings, or I could go to a buddies shop for a bigger unit.
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Re: beadlocks: weld-on vs $$$

Well that's not going to work! How would you cut the wheel straight/true?
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Old April 13th, 2018, 14:02
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Well that's not going to work! How would you cut the wheel straight/true?
cut the wheel? Guess I'll watch some vids. didn't think cutting a wheel was part of process and never seen it mentioned in any DIY beadlock writeups. thought the inner ring dropped inside the outer lip of the wheel
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That only works for "beadlooks" !!!
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Old April 13th, 2018, 14:22
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Re: beadlocks: weld-on vs $$$

I've got DIY beadlocks from Total Metal Innovations. You drop the inner ring in and go to town with the welder, no cutting involved.
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Old April 20th, 2018, 08:33
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Well that's not going to work! How would you cut the wheel straight/true?
Looks like you've not looked into this in a while. There are locks out there that drop into the front lip of the wheel and weld in.

A 120VAC wire-feed welder is plenty to do this, so long as it will handle the material. I used fluxcore with my Lincoln 3200HD and it worked a treat.

Honestly, I am pretty sure you could do it with a 120VAC inverter stick box. I may try that, as I have a set of wheels to build.

BTW, they don't cost $100 each, either. TMI's product (the best I have found in this product) are $50 each. Put them on a steel wheel, brand new, you're looking at $100/wheel, complete assembly. Less if you use old wheels (I am using old "trash" wheels that had a bit of rust).

I wouldn't use the diybeadlocks.com product if you made me, not due to the product itself (though it IS inferior!) but due to the way the owner comports himself. Complete asshat.
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Old April 13th, 2018, 13:40
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Re: beadlocks: weld-on vs $$$

Time is another aspect. Is the time it takes to makes the mod (assuming you don't mess up) worth the gamble? Now if you mess up, you're right in the ballpark of just buying a set from the start.
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Check these out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3JBc5R5aJw
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Re: beadlocks: weld-on vs $$$

or just go w/ some allied rock a thons, reason cost,good quality steel beadlocks, summit racing has the best prices on them & quick delivery. why bash up $350 a wheel alloy wheels when you can bash up much cheaper steel ones. and they both do the same job. i have used them on 2 jeeps so far , never popped a bead yet , even w/ 37's at 8 lbs. have even went as low as 4 lbs sometimes for serious rock crawlin. i just cant justify $350 a wheel .
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Re: beadlocks: weld-on vs $$$

Sorry, my mistake I hadn't looked into it for years, there are a lot a new kits out there! I'm old and old schooled!
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Sorry, my mistake I hadn't looked into it for years, there are a lot a new kits out there! I'm old and old schooled!
wondered what was going on!!
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or just go w/ some allied rock a thons, reason cost,good quality steel beadlocks, summit racing has the best prices on them & quick delivery. why bash up $350 a wheel alloy wheels when you can bash up much cheaper steel ones. and they both do the same job. i have used them on 2 jeeps so far , never popped a bead yet , even w/ 37's at 8 lbs. have even went as low as 4 lbs sometimes for serious rock crawlin. i just cant justify $350 a wheel .
got a link? summit has double beadlocks and a couple rings
found an article on rockcrawler.com, but the banner ad for them was dead

raceline buy allied or something?

very interested in allied, just can't find them. well, I found these: https://www.alliedwheel.com/p-1526-r...beadlocks.aspx
but we're back to $300+ for 17x9
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got a link? summit has double beadlocks and a couple rings
found an article on rockcrawler.com, but the banner ad for them was dead

raceline buy allied or something?

very interested in allied, just can't find them. well, I found these: https://www.alliedwheel.com/p-1526-r...beadlocks.aspx
but we're back to $300+ for 17x9
fourxdoctor.com has 17 x 9.5 allied wheel bead locks for $217.00 , depending on the lug pattern you need , 17 x 8 is even less cost.
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