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Old February 23rd, 2018, 09:04
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Re: cav fab alpha 3 link, pics of install and any issues please?

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I think there would be some serious binding with that. One side would try to rotate (or not) the axle while the other in a totally different arc.
And this is why I posed the question - I don't know enough about suspension designs to know that.

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Old February 23rd, 2018, 10:26
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Re: cav fab alpha 3 link, pics of install and any issues please?

There are people who run a Y-Link or radius arm on 1 side and just a single lower link on the other. I scoped out a 4500 car setup that way too. Its believed to be less "binding" than a full radius arm/Y-link setup. I personally think all this binding talk is exaggerated. I've seen and experienced the capabilities of radius arm setups to flex, and never had an axle tube ripped apart or mounts deformed/damaged. That's even with all solid mounts at both the frame and axle. I'm not saying its not there, just that's its a lot less of an issue as some would like to believe.
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Old February 23rd, 2018, 16:36
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Re: cav fab alpha 3 link, pics of install and any issues please?

Agreed. What I got from his question was what would happen with a 3 link with the addition of a radius arm on the side opposite the upper link.

Had a friend who had a tj with one radius arm set up like you said Dutch. Seemed to work fine, never had issues with it.
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Old February 23rd, 2018, 16:58
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Agreed. What I got from his question was what would happen with a 3 link with the addition of a radius arm on the side opposite the upper link.
Yep, that was exactly what I was wondering.
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Re: cav fab alpha 3 link, pics of install and any issues please?

So a 4-Link, Radius Arm setup? Seems odd. Most likely it’d explode and cause you to drive into a school bus full of nuns and orphans.
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Re: cav fab alpha 3 link, pics of install and any issues please?

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Stupid question - is there any particular reason why the single-link side of this sort of system couldn't be a y-link like in a radius arm setup? Then at least the upper link that goes to the frame is only shouldering part of the rotational load even if it doesn't provide that 4th axle-frame connection like some above have expressed preference for.

Would something like this be called a "hybrid" setup, or a "3 and a half link"?
Similar to ironrocks iron-y long arm suspension?

https://www.ironrockoffroad.com/prod...m-upgrade.html
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So a 4-Link, Radius Arm setup? Seems odd. Most likely itd explode and cause you to drive into a school bus full of nuns and orphans.
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Re: cav fab alpha 3 link, pics of install and any issues please?

what do yall think about this set up ?

https://www.core4x4.com/product/jeep...ade-tier-four/

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Re: cav fab alpha 3 link, pics of install and any issues please?

mind you johnny joints all around, the pics arent up to date yet.
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Re: cav fab alpha 3 link, pics of install and any issues please?

spend the extra money and go TNT.
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Re: cav fab alpha 3 link, pics of install and any issues please?

My only complaint with the TNT setup (other than the age old Y-Link Vs etc debate) is that you can't remove the crossmember/skid separate from the links. Having an automatic I like being able to drop the transmission pan easily to change the filter.
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what do yall think about this set up ?

https://www.core4x4.com/product/jeep...ade-tier-four/

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This is what I'm running and I'm really happy with it. Its cheaper and a 4-Link.

http://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-su...on-system.html

I will say, I like on that CAVFab setup how the lowers are tucked up in the frame more. I did get hung up on the lower control arm mount coming down a ledge when I was 33's still. I had my G/F get in the driver seat and work the wheel back and forth a bit while I gave it a shove and was able to get the Jeep off the ledge w/o much fuss though.


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spend the extra money and go TNT.
My only complaint with the TNT setup (other than the age old Y-Link Vs etc debate) is that you can't remove the crossmember/skid separate from the links. Having an automatic I like being able to drop the transmission pan easily to change the filter. I did use it on my 92 XJ (5spd) and was happy with it. That was my issue with the BDS 4-Link too.
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Re: cav fab alpha 3 link, pics of install and any issues please?

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My only complaint with the TNT setup (other than the age old Y-Link Vs etc debate) is that you can't remove the crossmember/skid separate from the links. Having an automatic I like being able to drop the transmission pan easily to change the filter.
i used to think that. i built a crossmember similar to claytons... i never dropped the crossmember.

though i did have a manual. i dumped redline MTL into it once, and wheeling prep was as simple as making sure it was full. idk how often you are/should be changing filters.
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Re: cav fab alpha 3 link, pics of install and any issues please?

I wouldn't be worried about it on a manual transmission equipped rig. With the automatic I change the filter every year. Its probably overkill, but I want to make sure its taken care of. My Jeep has 260,000+ miles on the original drivetrain.
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Re: cav fab alpha 3 link, pics of install and any issues please?

BTW if you email Core4x4 they make a full 4 link. and metalcloak makes their lock n load system which is a modified radius arm.
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