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Old July 9th, 2014, 21:20
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if you wear them out that fast, may be time to consider http://www.genright.com/ProductInfo....0#.U74GUjzn-P8
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Old July 9th, 2014, 22:57
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Yeah I was looking at those but I would have to modify my re arms to work. They are a wider joint than stock bushings. Re makes a retrofit kit and uses their newer bushings. I would just need to tack the sleeves in the axle mounts then squeeze in the bushings and sleeves. Currie also makes a Johnny joint retrofit but supposedly it's only for the drivers side.
I wonder if poly joints would be an option?
Metal cloak is working on a retrofit for their bushing/joints but it's not ready yet I guess.
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Old July 12th, 2014, 20:04
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So what is everyone with stock ish axles doing for upper axle control arm bushings? Poly, rubber, joint. I have stock mounts on the axle and destroyed the bushings I put in last year in just a handful of runs. They were rubber. I have been looking at a few other options.
If you want cheep, I'm pretty sure I have some stockers for the axle end. I think they are TRW's, but??? Anyway, they're yours if ya want em.
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Heck ya I'll take them rob. I'll give you a call Monday and swing by.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 09:22
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Sent ya a pm. They are TRW's and I have 4 of them. That should hold you over 'til you get that 70 done.
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Hell yeah. I got your number already rob. Not that I'm stocking you or anything.


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Big thanks to rob for hooking me up with some upper bushings. Thanks mang. Good talking to ya.

So I set my first pattern on the dana 30 tonight. Need some insight. It looks to me like the pinion is either a hair to deep or too shallow. The thing is if it's too deep I have no shims in it right now. Just the baffle is behind the inner race so what do I do if that's the case. Pull the baffle?

Backlash is at .09
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Shoot it looks good right there. I'm tempted to say its good. That pattern does look a tiny bit shallow. Its a little more to the toe side of the ring gear which means you will end up increasing backlash a bit. At that point you will probably end up putting shims under the pinion to increase pinion depth since it will be way too shallow and I wouldn't want to run more than 9 -10 thousandths up front anyway so I would want to bring it in. which will bring bl in some more . Is the setup race for the inner pinion bearing seated all the way in? Pinion nut torqued down right? Bearing caps on? I always use this write up :http://www.pirate4x4.com/articles/te...sta/Gear_Setup
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How much deeper do you think I should go with the pinion Jon? Yeah everything is torqued down.

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its tough to say since I think that pattern looks pretty good where its at. Its more like, it could always be better, but it looks good there. I have no idea what I am talking about really, but it looks like if it was my gear setup I would increase BL by 1-2 thousandths. Then check pinion depth and go from there.
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That's what I was thinking. I'll try that tonight.
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keep a note of the shim stacks and you can always go back to this setup if its the best you can get. 9 thousandths BL is good and the pinion depth is probably OK to run. But once you open up BL a few thousandths then you will be able to probably bring the pinion in a few thousandths and that will possibly get you to a point where you can dial in BL and pinion depth.

I can tell you that when I was doing my gears, even when I thought it was perfect, I put final bearings back on and had to reset BL and pinion depth which sucks. if you are not using setup bearings then you will be fine.
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I am not using setup bearings. With that clamshell puller kit it's a breaze to swap shims.
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So here is the second pattern. Backlash is at .05.

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Pinion bearing preload with new bearings is between 20-40inch/pounds right. I'm at about 35. Seems really tight but this is my first time.
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