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I'm sure there will be an appeal...

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And I hope they lose that as well!

"Freedom of speech" does include responsibility. I may not agree with what you say, but I do expect a certain amount of decorum and thought (if you protest at a funeral, expect to get your arse kicked. If you throw yourself across my vehicle as a 'form of protest,' expect me to get out and throw you into the weeds...)

http://www.yahoo.com/s/723227
 
That is simply sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wow:
 
this is the first time a post outside of the den has made me throw up in my mouth a little. im all for free speech, but that right there is downright disrespectful. if this were to happen at the funeral of any friend or family member of mine, there would be alot of people going to the hospital.

:patriot: god bless our soldiers, and i hope these nutbags rot in hell for the pain they are intentionally inflicting on these poor familys.
 
GrimmJeeper said:
:patriot: god bless our soldiers, and i hope these nutbags rot in hell for the pain they are intentionally inflicting on these poor familys.
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X2. Well put!
 
[QUOTE}Snyder's attorney, Craig Trebilcock, had urged jurors to determine an amount "that says don't do this in Maryland again. Do not bring your circus of hate to Maryland again." [/QUOTE]

Sound reasonable to me - avoid funerals, if you want to protest. Capital.

Even the size of the award for compensating damages "far exceeds the net worth of the defendants," according to financial statements filed with the court, U.S. District Judge Richard Bennett noted.
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I guess they'll never be done paying it off, then. Pity...

Granted, I tend to favour a rather more direct approach - but that's because courts take so damned long. I doubt this will shut these arse bandits down (they're rather like cockroaches, no?) but it should give them some pause.

I wonder if they can go after the individual members of the "congregation" to satisfy the judgment?
 
im in the honor guard and we do the funerals at arlington for the air force, up until about a year ago there was all kinds of protestors at the funerals, i got medded withonseveral occasions but was not allowed to contact them in any way. thank god the cemetery made it illegal to protest inside the gates. also theresa biker group in the capital area and possibly all over that would take care of the protestors for us since we werent allowed to do anything.
 
redneckboarder said:
im in the honor guard and we do the funerals at arlington for the air force, up until about a year ago there was all kinds of protestors at the funerals, i got medded withonseveral occasions but was not allowed to contact them in any way. thank god the cemetery made it illegal to protest inside the gates. also theresa biker group in the capital area and possibly all over that would take care of the protestors for us since we werent allowed to do anything.
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I believe those bikers are known as the "Freedom Guard Riders" - I remember seeing them online. They're all over, and cover especially where Phelps' people are found.

Google them - see if you can't confirm the name (I'm fairly sure that's them, but I could be mistaken...) and perhaps a "Thank you" for them might be in order as well...
 
yea thats what it is, i couldnt remember the name when i posted that and i didnt wanan guess and get it wrong. our firing line has thanked them several times, the protestors were in the way of us doing the honors with blanks which can seriously injure someone. those protestors are a bunch of morons if you ask me. the marines take no shit from them and ive seen a few in ambulances with police cars following after an encounter with marines.
 
this is just sick, i cant believe people feel this way about our fallen solders.
 
yea, i can understant protesting outside senate, white house etc but c'mon how do you think they would feel if some people came an made a big ruckus at the funeral of their loved one. personally id be pretty pissed and probly end up in jail. sometimes i think its mostly people jumping on the bandwagon and then not thinking stuff through. i still hate to see any protests about the war.
my favorite quote
"i may not agree with what you say but i will defend to the death your right to say it"
we have that quote on a picture of the firing line i love looking at that poser every day on my wall
 
Yup...Freedom or Patriot Riders. They represent an excellent cause. If I ever saw that happening to a family of a fallen soldier, I would be hard pressed not to pull over and inflict serious pain amongst those scumbag protestors. They have a special place in hell...which is funny since they are such hardcore baptists...lol.
 
Mtb Jak said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMP3AK5jwo
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Besides the fact that this lady looks like a man...she is a total bit@h. I hope that she somehow gets run over by one of these >>>
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. I couldn't listen to her for the whole video. Her stupid smirk on her face and the way she was saying things just says "I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT OUR SOLDIERS". What an inconsiderate piece of garbage. That's about the only thing I can think of to say about her without getting on a soapbox.
 
its really fun saying things over the pa system in my jeep when i see those people. I cant wait till one runs in front of me and i try to stop but 33's and stock brakes arent gonna do that in a hurry... damn. the nra sticker usually gets a me a few looks and gestures too
 
It's really a hard issue. Everybody is agreed, I think, on what sort of [**** make up nasty word of your choice] those people are, but at the same time, of course, freedom is tested not at the center but at the edge. We don't really want to see a law that forbids you to be a snot-sucking scumbag. At the same time, of course, freedom ends at the other guy's nose, so to speak, and freedom of speech is not freedom to defame, or to invade privacy, or to disrupt a legitimate pursuit. If you can taze a clown for interrupting a speech, why shouldn't you do it to someone who interrupts a funeral?

I guess one of the prices we pay for freedom is that every liberty, every good idea, every virtue, will be taken to an unacceptable extreme by some fool or other, and we will have to face the unpleasant task of deciding whether every freedom and every good principle is worth the price of having some crack-brained fanatic take it to the brink. I get angry at the people who divert us from what we need to be doing and by nibbling at the outer edges of our freedom, force reasonable people to look for limits on their own freedom. Right or left wing, whether it's by trying to impose radical religious ideas, or silly pseudo liberal PC ideas, trying to turn the world into a fundy cult or a nursery school, I'm sick of it.
 
Matthew Currie said:
It's really a hard issue. Everybody is agreed, I think, on what sort of [**** make up nasty word of your choice] those people are, but at the same time, of course, freedom is tested not at the center but at the edge. We don't really want to see a law that forbids you to be a snot-sucking scumbag. At the same time, of course, freedom ends at the other guy's nose, so to speak, and freedom of speech is not freedom to defame, or to invade privacy, or to disrupt a legitimate pursuit. If you can taze a clown for interrupting a speech, why shouldn't you do it to someone who interrupts a funeral?

I guess one of the prices we pay for freedom is that every liberty, every good idea, every virtue, will be taken to an unacceptable extreme by some fool or other, and we will have to face the unpleasant task of deciding whether every freedom and every good principle is worth the price of having some crack-brained fanatic take it to the brink. I get angry at the people who divert us from what we need to be doing and by nibbling at the outer edges of our freedom, force reasonable people to look for limits on their own freedom. Right or left wing, whether it's by trying to impose radical religious ideas, or silly pseudo liberal PC ideas, trying to turn the world into a fundy cult or a nursery school, I'm sick of it.
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Well put.:clap:
 
Matthew Currie said:
It's really a hard issue. Everybody is agreed, I think, on what sort of [**** make up nasty word of your choice] those people are, but at the same time, of course, freedom is tested not at the center but at the edge. We don't really want to see a law that forbids you to be a snot-sucking scumbag. At the same time, of course, freedom ends at the other guy's nose, so to speak, and freedom of speech is not freedom to defame, or to invade privacy, or to disrupt a legitimate pursuit. If you can taze a clown for interrupting a speech, why shouldn't you do it to someone who interrupts a funeral?

I guess one of the prices we pay for freedom is that every liberty, every good idea, every virtue, will be taken to an unacceptable extreme by some fool or other, and we will have to face the unpleasant task of deciding whether every freedom and every good principle is worth the price of having some crack-brained fanatic take it to the brink. I get angry at the people who divert us from what we need to be doing and by nibbling at the outer edges of our freedom, force reasonable people to look for limits on their own freedom. Right or left wing, whether it's by trying to impose radical religious ideas, or silly pseudo liberal PC ideas, trying to turn the world into a fundy cult or a nursery school, I'm sick of it.
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Well put - right down to the essential point of "with freedom comes responsibility." Freedom of Speech does not include:
Defamation of character (slander/libel)
Creation of risk to life and/or limb (don't yell "movie!" in a crowded firehouse)

And the like. If they want to spout off their fundamentalist nonsense (at least, it's nonsense to me. It will likely remain so until God Himself tells me otherwise, sans intermediary...) they are free to do so - but don't disrupt a solemn event to so do. This case shows that this is not acceptable under the "Freedom of Speech."

However, laws become necessary because people seem to lack sense more and more often these days. As my wife tells me, "laws are written to the lowest common denominator." From what I've seen, I'm amazed that there are still people allowed out into public without an escort for their own safety!

"God must really hate the common man - otherwise He wouldn't have made him so damned common." I don't recall attribution, and I'm probably misquoting anyhow, but the sentiment is there. The unfortunate thing about the laws passed to protect people who would otherwise cull themselves from society is that we aren't doing anything to improve the breed in place of Nature.

"Nature is a hanging judge."
 
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