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lockers! what ya running and why?
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lockers! what ya running and why?
I will say that if my foot is on the throttle the grizzly is locked. I I can some let of fast coming into a turn and get it to unlock.
Found coasting down hill it does unlock. Have seen no situation where I was on the throttle and it wasn't locked didn't matter turning or going straight. If im sending power through the tcase the fronts locked. In 2wd its definitely not locked. Paired with the welded rear if it was it would be a real pain to drive on the street. https://youtu.be/Tv4Tba7gUC4 Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk |
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Re: lockers! what ya running and why?
My WJ has a aussie in the rear. Not a fan for street driving at all. Offroad it does great. It's not my daily so don't really care. For the cost an my options with the faux44 it's not terrible. Eventually when an axle swap happens trutrac rear and selectable front. My MJ is ARB front a trutrac rear. Still being built but I know this combo and dig it. In any case selectable up front and rear selectable preferred but a trutrac or grizzly would be my choice. Unless it's a trailer queen spool the rear, selectable up front
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88 MJ truggy, 4.0HOybrid AX15, NP242 **Being built** Mods: D44 w/ 4.30's, ARB front and Auburn rear, 33's 04 WJ, 4.7HO Mods; 3" IRO lift, ADDCO rear sway bar, 4.7HO with bored fastman TB, AFE intake and Superchip tuner, 32s, lunchbox rear 242HD, 3" Kolak exhaust |
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Re: lockers! what ya running and why?
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I maybe be rude but you need to SPOBI
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Spotters lead the way! My green junk. or #StellaFTH4 1989 XJ Wagoneer. Basically stock. G & G Offroad and Auto Repair can make you think you can run the Box! |
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Re: lockers! what ya running and why?
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Close, but backwards. Trailer + hydraulic steering + 35 spline = spool the front and air leaker in the rear ![]() The front pulls you up or around a corner, while the rear pushes you straight or off the line.
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Spotters lead the way! My green junk. or #StellaFTH4 1989 XJ Wagoneer. Basically stock. G & G Offroad and Auto Repair can make you think you can run the Box! |
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Re: lockers! what ya running and why?
I ran an aussie up front in my 94 for years, including a lot of street driving and I never had an issue, though the noise was kind of annoying sometimes.
I've got ARB's front and rear now and I'm really enjoying it. Had I not bought axles that already had them and gears done, I probably wouldn't have sprung for them. In fact I had another aussie ready to go in the front of my 01 before these fell into my lap. If I did it again I'd probably do an auto locker in the rear, and a selectable up front. I find that its rare I don't want the rear locked, so I wouldn't mind the simplicity back.
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Re: lockers! what ya running and why?
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at anyrate the original poster of this thread indicated his front end has been locked for years, and that he has gone thru several steering systems, possibly because of that. If he is driving on dry pavement locked, well that can explain the steering damage. I suggest he use a selectable locker so he can unlock when on pavement, and I stand by that statement. otherwise he can go with a limited slip device, or go open diff. but if he wants to be fully locked, it needs to be selectable if he intends to turn corners on dry pavement. Now what is wrong with that? Maybe you can explain otherwise without being rude? Id appreciate that. Thanks. My arb is only locked when needed on dirt, never on pavement, as driving on dry pavement locked will cause damage. |
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Re: lockers! what ya running and why?
Seems like the ideal combo depends on the intended usage. I went with a truetrac in the rear because my XJ sees a lot of street time, and for reasons I don't quite yet understand, the Duratracs on my XJ suck for street traction especially in the rain. truetrac fixed the single spinning tire issue, and it will improve traction in dirt. I have no plans for any offroad that will be lifting a wheel off the ground, so I think a truetrac is fine for me at the rear. And I can always try the ebrake trick although I've heard varying opinions on whether it actually works.
The front is still open, and I'm debating whether to go truetrac there or an elocker. I like that a truetrac at the front will improve all around traction in the dirt, but I'm tempted by the elocker to get me full-locked traction at the front in unexpected situations. No plans for an auto-locker at the front. Doesn't appeal to me for snow driving. Another factor seems to be whether there will be any snow driving. My general impression is that a locked axle in the snow, especially at the front, is a major handful. |
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Re: lockers! what ya running and why?
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OP states automatic locking differentials, not spool or welded spider gears. Accident damage or abuse is the likely cause of OP's issues. .
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Re: lockers! what ya running and why?
Stop Putting Out Bunk Information.
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Try this: http://www.offroaders.com/technical/...ial-explained/ Quote:
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Have you ever run an automatic locker in the front axle, or did the air locker salesman tell you that that's what you "have to" do?
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Re: lockers! what ya running and why?
The original guy says his front has been locked for years. If it is locked, it wont allow differential wheel speed, that maybe the problem of causing the steering gear damage.
He needs it unlocked for street use. Is that not correct? Seems like his lunchbox locker is busted, keeping it locked all the time ("locked for years") if he wants to drive on the street he needs some way of it unlocking, be it automatically, or driver selectable, or go with an open diff., Is that not correct? |
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lockers! what ya running and why?
Hey man it's all in the wording... People say "locked" all the time.... This can be any combo of welded,spool, selectable,or ratchet.... I'd guess most often on an xj ppl are referring to a lunchbox locker due to price. These require no actuation and are always "locked" but they allow wheels to spin at different speeds. This all means when they (lunchbox or ratchet locker) are used with no power being sent to them (such as the front axle in 2wd on the street) they allow the wheels to turn independently... no steering damage comes from this. 4wd shouldn't be used on hard pack(high traction surfaces) at all.
With all this being said I run a cheap sylvan locker in the front on 35s..... The rear is an 8.8 with a factory lsd that has been repacked with junkyard clutches. On the street it is perfectly content. The ratcheting from the front doesn't bother me. My steering is also original with well over 300k on it.... Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk |
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Re: lockers! what ya running and why?
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For that someone used the word "ignorant" about me, rather than explaining that "locked for years" might possibly mean something else. Time to ratchet this down, and get back to discussing why the original,poster is having damaged steering gear rather than tossing about insults, don't you think? Now why is he going thru so many steering parts? Is his locker always locked, and does he drive it locked (meaning axles locked together) on the street? More info is needed to help diagnose the problem. ![]() |
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Re: lockers! what ya running and why?
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If someone tells me they are driving a locked rig I am going to think they mean they are running a spool or a Lincoln (or Miller) locker. I don't know if the variance is regional or personal, but I do not think it is safe to assume that if you tell someone your rig is "locked" they will understand that it is sometimes locked and sometimes not. More clarification is needed if you actually want people to understand.
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