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Old February 22nd, 2021, 18:09
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Oil change frequency for fully synthetic and light use?

I've been having a tough time finding a more definitive answer to my specific case for oil change frequency.

I have a 1999 Jeep Cherokee with 110K miles on it. I live on Vancouver Island, so the climate is very mild year round. I use 10W30 Valvoline fully synthetic motor oil. The Jeep sees about 3000 miles per year in street driving. The average trip length is about 3 miles. How often do I need to change the motor oil? Perhaps every 2 years, or are there emulsifiers in the oil which would have sufficiently broken down by then?
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Old February 22nd, 2021, 18:14
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Re: Oil change frequency for fully synthetic and light use?

Work with a used oil analysis firm to extend your OCIs scientifically. Otherwise I think the rule of thumb for synthetic is double that of ordinary oil.
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Re: Oil change frequency for fully synthetic and light use?

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Work with a used oil analysis firm to extend your OCIs scientifically. Otherwise I think the rule of thumb for synthetic is double that of ordinary oil.
Under usual conditions. I would be hesitant to leave oil in for years at a time.. But as far as type and viscosity, man, that's a can of worms! Everyone has their own opinion and some people can get heated about it. Personally I use 15w-40 rotella and change at 3k. Which is about once a month for me.
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Re: Oil change frequency for fully synthetic and light use?

I've been running Amsoil for 50yrs but I still use the regular service change schedules just because I care about my motors. If nothing else change the filter and add a quart if just need some time.
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Re: Oil change frequency for fully synthetic and light use?

I've been using synthetics since the late 80's. Not exclusively though. With out a lab results, I would not go beyond 8K on an OCI. I have exceeded that though to near 12K. It would also be depended on how clean the engine runs. Now, not exceeding that mileage, I've always tried to change synthetics in a years time. It used to be 3 months for dino. The dinos have gotten near synthetic performance in the past 5 years. So, I might extend them to 6 months.
I am running Rotella T6 in my XJ the 5W-40.
I think AMSOIL has a 25K or more OCI on their oils if you used their extended filter. I'm by no means an expert on this. Still, If I were you, 8K and 1 year is what I'd go with.
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Re: Oil change frequency for fully synthetic and light use?

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Work with a used oil analysis firm to extend your OCIs scientifically. Otherwise I think the rule of thumb for synthetic is double that of ordinary oil.
In addition to the above comment, I would add 3 miles per trip put you in a very negative position. The XJ need, at least my XJ need a lot more than that to come up to the proper temperature. The oil and engine for that matter is not hot enough to evaporate all the moisture in it. More frequent oil changes and/or oil analysis may be needed.
I live in Florida. I use Amsoil. The manual allows up to 7,500 miles depending on conditions between oil changes. I change the oil between 12 and 15,000 miles. With 350,000+ miles on my XJ. It have 60 PSI pressure cold and 40+ at idle after a long run.
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Re: Oil change frequency for fully synthetic and light use?

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If I were you, 8K and 1 year is what I'd go with.
Do you mean "8K or 1-yr, which ever occurs first"? If so, I'm at the 1-yr mark. To date, I have 2125 miles on my latest oil change, which occurred exactly one year ago today.

The Jeep sees a 3-mile, 12-minute drive to my kids primary school at 8:30 AM, then a 3-mile, 12-minute drive back home. Then in the afternoon, another 3-mile, 12-minute drive to pickup the kids, and a 3-mile, 12-minute drive home. Temperatures where I live are nominally around 6 - 10 C in the winter, and 14 - 24 degrees C in the summer. Is there not some online calculator or other rules of thumb to narrow in more on more optimised oil change frequency based on user input? At 2125 miles in 1 year, it seems a bit wasteful to be changing the oil again.

I contacted an oil analysis company in Edmonton Alberta, which is the closest I could find to me in BC. The pre-paid cost for the analysis is $62 CAD, which is about the cost for me to change the oil. If I didn't need shipping, it would be $39, but I was unable to find a local outfit in my town.

In the past, I had been changing it every year based on about the same driving frequency, but was starting to think that maybe it could be pushed to every 2 years.
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Re: Oil change frequency for fully synthetic and light use?

I was told or read to change synthetics once a year. That has been several years ago, say 20. As mentioned before oil is hydroscopic, ie collects water. Synthetics are less hydroscopic that conventional oils. It takes about 30 minutes at temp to 'burn' off the water. This also applies to brakes and other stuff. I would plan to run at least 30 minutes once a week or at least monthly.
The oil analysis should be viewed as to how your engine is doing. If you want or plan to exceed the 1 year or 8K mileage. So, it might be savings in the long run. No, I haven't had one done yet. Also, it might warn you of potential problems.
Also, the 7,500 or 8,000 OCI in manual are for non-severe driving. That is mainly highway driving in non dusty conditions. City driving is or could be considered severe.
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