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Old December 3rd, 2016, 13:22
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Re: 231 VS 242 and a sad, funny story

I had a 242 in mine and swapped in an Atlas. Then I installed the TNT long arm in the front and ordered it for the 242 I originally had. I still ended up modifying the skid for clearance below the Atlas. Mostly it was the connection between the belly pan and the t-case skid. The Atlas doesn't sit as far back as the 242, or a 231, so it hung down right where the 2 skids bolt together. I cut a section of the lip off, moved it over and welded it back in the new location. Then cut and lowered a section just below the t-case housing just to make sure I had ample room at the low point of the case. If I had clocked the t-case up one more position none of the mod's would have been necessary though.
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Old December 3rd, 2016, 13:31
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I had a 242 in mine and swapped in an Atlas. Then I installed the TNT long arm in the front and ordered it for the 242 I originally had. I still ended up modifying the skid for clearance below the Atlas. Mostly it was the connection between the belly pan and the t-case skid. The Atlas doesn't sit as far back as the 242, or a 231, so it hung down right where the 2 skids bolt together. I cut a section of the lip off, moved it over and welded it back in the new location. Then cut and lowered a section just below the t-case housing just to make sure I had ample room at the low point of the case. If I had clocked the t-case up one more position none of the mod's would have been necessary though.
WOW - great info!! Do you have pics?

Also, why not just re clock the tcase? It obviously isn't as easy as it sounds...
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Old December 3rd, 2016, 21:45
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Re: 231 VS 242 and a sad, funny story

The clocking isn't too hard since the mounting ring on the Atlas has holes that allow you to easily change where you put the mounting studs. But you usually have to do a bit of modifying (hammering) to the tunnel since the Atlas will hit when it's clocked up. I just didn't feel like doing the hammer-fit-hammer-fit exercise. The Atlas is just too dang heavy to lift in and out a bunch of times when you're working alone.
Here's a link to the thread I did when I installed the TNT kit. http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1106203 . Hopefully that works for you. I can email them to you if you like.
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Old December 3rd, 2016, 23:49
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Many people prefer the 231( I disagree with the reasons why) but anyway it's a popular swap. I have one available if you wanna trade

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Old December 4th, 2016, 09:57
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The clocking isn't too hard since the mounting ring on the Atlas has holes that allow you to easily change where you put the mounting studs. But you usually have to do a bit of modifying (hammering) to the tunnel since the Atlas will hit when it's clocked up. I just didn't feel like doing the hammer-fit-hammer-fit exercise. The Atlas is just too dang heavy to lift in and out a bunch of times when you're working alone.
Here's a link to the thread I did when I installed the TNT kit. http://naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1106203 . Hopefully that works for you. I can email them to you if you like.
That works perfect! There really wasn't much modification, thank you for the clarity!

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Old December 4th, 2016, 20:21
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Many people prefer the 231( I disagree with the reasons why) but anyway it's a popular swap. I have one available if you wanna trade

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Size is justification enough IMO depending on your goals. Also if running an auto locker in the front the full time option is no longer viable on the pavement. Both reasons why I made the swap
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Old December 4th, 2016, 20:24
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Size is justification enough IMO depending on your goals. Also if running an auto locker in the front the full time option is no longer viable on the pavement. Both reasons why I made the swap
I've read this before - just to clarify - by "auto locker" you mean something NOT switchable, like a Detroit or something?
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Old December 4th, 2016, 21:36
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AA has a real SYE kit for the 242, I have it in mine

http://www.advanceadapters.com/produ...ixed-yoke-kit/
When did that show up? When I needed a 242 SYE two years ago I was told Tom Woods was the exclusive distributor of the AA 242 HD SYE kit. I have it in mine. There was never any doubt that AA made it, just that back then TW was supposedly the exclusive distributor of it.
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Old December 4th, 2016, 21:37
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UPDATE: I called TNT after thinking about what Cal said. I got lucky - TNT is coming down to CO for the Christmas Caravan - they offered to bring the 242 tcase skid with to swap me.

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That's great!
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Old December 4th, 2016, 21:38
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When did that show up? When I needed a 242 SYE two years ago I was told Tom Woods was the exclusive distributor of the AA 242 HD SYE kit. I have it in mine. There was never any doubt that AA made it, just that back then TW was supposedly the exclusive distributor of it.
It has not been very long that AA has had this. Maybe 1.5-2 years
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I've read this before - just to clarify - by "auto locker" you mean something NOT switchable, like a Detroit or something?
I'm sure he means non-selectable (Detroit, etc).
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Old December 5th, 2016, 08:12
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I'm sure he means non-selectable (Detroit, etc).
Makes sense - I have an ARB to go up front and would have hated for it to not work right.
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Old December 9th, 2016, 17:24
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Re: 231 VS 242 and a sad, funny story

If you decide to grab a 231 (which I think is the way to go), the Denver U Pull always has them. Sometimes just laying in the yard. They are normally $100. Next Sunday the 17th, everything will be half off.

They are pretty indestructible. The first XJ I bought had like 400k miles, and a 231 with a chain so loose it had worn through the case and let all the fluid out. The whole case was filed with dirt because it had been without lube so long. Worked more or less fine. So I wouldn't hesitate to get a junkyard 231.

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If you decide to grab a 231 (which I think is the way to go), the Denver U Pull always has them. Sometimes just laying in the yard. They are normally $100. Next Sunday the 17th, everything will be half off.

They are pretty indestructible. The first XJ I bought had like 400k miles, and a 231 with a chain so loose it had worn through the case and let all the fluid out. The whole case was filed with dirt because it had been without lube so long. Worked more or less fine. So I wouldn't hesitate to get a junkyard 231.

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Thank you for the advice!!
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