760's: Snap rings or weld the caps

TORX · Feb 12, 2009

I'm upgrading form 260 to 297 shafts, and want to prevent any caps from working loose.

I have new Spicer 5-760X joints waiting to go in. Now I'm just trying to decide which would be better, snap rings or welding?

Does welding effect the u-joint at all? Needle bearings?

How are you guys modifying your stock shafts for full circle rings?

I've also read about using a fender washer to cover the cap, and then weld the washer to the shaft. This way if the joint needs serviced you can grind the washer off. Has anyone tried this?

Ba-Riedo · Feb 12, 2009

Weld the caps on, when you need to change them just grind it off.

-Alex

Gravesdiggerxj · Feb 12, 2009

you only need to grind a little to run full circle clips

xjtrailrider · Feb 12, 2009

I do both

MoparManiac · Feb 12, 2009

Gravesdiggerxj said:
you only need to grind a little to run full circle clips

x2. If you have a chop saw, it's a half hour job to do all four yokes.

I had to use a dremel the first time...that blew.

BADaXJ · Feb 12, 2009

i'm in the same situation... just wondering how much material has to be removed to run full circle clips and if it compromises the strength of the shaft at all?

TORX · Feb 12, 2009

BADaXJ said:
i'm in the same situation... just wondering how much material has to be removed to run full circle clips and if it compromises the strength of the shaft at all?

X2

It seems like a chop saw would have a large radius, which would mean a lot of material coming off. I picked up some circle clips today for a couple bucks, but they seem a little flimsy.

I've yet to come across a pic of a stock shaft ground out for full circles. A picture is worth a thousand words!

stockerwithalocker · Feb 13, 2009

I know it is on a ranger site, but here is a write up on what you are asking for.

http://www.therangerstation.com/Magazine/May06/dana35_ujoint_snapring.htm

MoparManiac · Feb 13, 2009

The chop saw just makes it easier to take off the metal since it's in a confined area and you need a precise cut. You can't get an angle grinder in there, and a dremel takes too long.

Once you get the u-joint out, and have a full-circle clip handy, you'll see how much needs to come off. It's not that much at all.

emr1101 · Feb 13, 2009

I don't fully understand the caps walking out of the shafts, or how/where these fcc's go, any help?

asp · Feb 13, 2009

you could use an angle grinder with a 7" disk.... :dunno:

CanMan · Feb 13, 2009

emr1101 said:
I don't fully understand the caps walking out of the shafts, or how/where these fcc's go, any help?

They go on the cap on the inside of the shafts, closest to the body of the joint.

foxwar71 · Feb 13, 2009

TORX · Feb 13, 2009

stockerwithalocker said:
I know it is on a ranger site, but here is a write up on what you are asking for.

http://www.therangerstation.com/Magazine/May06/dana35_ujoint_snapring.htm

I did a couple Google searches, but must have missed that. Being that I have the full circle clips, I think I'll give them a shot. Between the chop saw, angle grinder, and die grinder I should be able to figure something out.

TORX · Feb 15, 2009

Well, trimming the shafts to fit the full circle clips was pretty straight forward. I first used a chop saw, and then fine tuned the cut with an angle grinder. Don't be afraid to take too much off. I had to press out the joint multiple times to go back and take more material off for the clips to clear. Sorry for the blurry pics.

Uncut - Cut

Ready for the u-joint

Completed

MoparManiac · Feb 15, 2009

Glad it worked out for ya man :thumbup:

CanMan · Feb 16, 2009

What clips did you end up using?

TORX · Feb 16, 2009

CanMan said:
What clips did you end up using?

1 3/16 shaft diameter. They fit really well, but the thickness of the clip was a few thousandths smaller than the stock clips (058 vs 052).

McMaster-Carr #97633A330

drknyt · Feb 17, 2009

i welded mine because the holes for the caps were streched out so i used a center punch and punched the insides to raise the metal then i put lock tight on the caps and then welded them, i figure the axle is done so when the u joint goes just chuck the whole thing probably

joshdbrooks · Feb 17, 2009

I like Iron Rock off-road's approach.

http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merchant2/IMG_9579.JPG

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