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comrad_zeelaagee
January 31st, 2009, 23:46
i know someone here will have the info i am looking for. someone may even know where i can find one for cheap :D.

my wish is to construct a expedition trailer from a truck bed. i have seen older chevy model beds with removable fenders that leave a bare bucket. i think 60-66? that's what i want- in the short bed flavor- so that affixing homebrew flat fenders and other items to the outside is simple and easy.

i don't know what model years these were available. as of yet, i've only seen them in gmc/chev. models, but maybe ford or dodge had similar?

do the fleet side fenders some off in the same way the step side fenders do- exposing the bare bucket beneath?

thanks for the help guys.

andy

Gerr
February 1st, 2009, 06:33
on newer trucks you would be left with a pretty weak bed the sides offer a lot of rigidity when my Dad gets up Ill ask him what year his chevy was but it had the bed your talking about where the fenders were just bolt on


http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1947-1955-chevrolet-trucks-1950.jpg
1947-55 chevy

souske
February 1st, 2009, 07:26
dibbs on your fenders! the one is kind of :gee:

comrad_zeelaagee
February 1st, 2009, 11:44
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1947-1955-chevrolet-trucks-1950.jpg
1947-55 chevy

yep- something like that. year doesn't matter to me. i know the same configuration of removeable fenders was used in later model years as well.

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GSequoia
February 1st, 2009, 12:15
Personally I say it's too wide (not to mention I would molest a collectable bed). I love my M416 on the trail because it's slightly narrower than a stock XJ, what that means is that is corners exactly behind my Jeep. The only downside is that it's a pain in the ass to back up.

comrad_zeelaagee
February 1st, 2009, 12:25
Personally I say it's too wide (not to mention I would molest a collectable bed). I love my M416 on the trail because it's slightly narrower than a stock XJ, what that means is that is corners exactly behind my Jeep. The only downside is that it's a pain in the ass to back up.

i'd love to have a old school military trailer... that would be ideal. but they're a pain to find, even harder to find in decent shape for a reasonable price... but i'll keep looking.

i understand not wanting to molest a collectable bed- but are there other options on the cheap? :dunno: my other thought was building a steel frame with an alum. diamond plate bucket- a custom build, but i'm pretty sure that's waaaay out of the budget at this time.

GSequoia
February 1st, 2009, 12:32
I kinda doubt a custom build will be much more expensive then the bed route with that particular bed. Just try to hook up with somebody here who can help you if you need it and pick up some sheetmetal and build the exact box you want.

willy51
February 1st, 2009, 14:37
I can help you build a trailer like the M416. The willys overland pickup bed is pretty close to the same dimentions as the military trailers and the fenders are removable and not structural. Finding one in decent shape can be a bit of a challenge but i have seen two in the junk yards in the last month.

JohnX
February 1st, 2009, 14:58
This would be a good start. 4x6 with removeable front and rear gates. Also has 31's and a portal axle. Side mount tool boxes will be included too, they just need to be mounted.

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=972183&highlight=trailer

comrad_zeelaagee
February 2nd, 2009, 00:23
This would be a good start. 4x6 with removeable front and rear gates. Also has 31's and a portal axle. Side mount tool boxes will be included too, they just need to be mounted.

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=972183&highlight=trailer

tempting indeed- but the boss is unlikely to go for it right now. cash is tight- this is a long term, piece by piece project i'm looking to do. i do appreciate you looking out for me though. that would be awesome as a base. i'll pm you if i can get it going.
:cheers:

JESSE A
February 2nd, 2009, 00:33
AHH.....please DON'T HURT ME! this is my 49 chevy pickup, it would be a shame.http://a222.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/44/l_1c63493052bcc7bb260cb549d0be18ed.jpg
jesse

comrad_zeelaagee
February 2nd, 2009, 00:40
i don't really care about going vintage per se... i just want something that will work and have a flat exterior for affixing jerry cans, hi-lift, etc.

btw- that's puerrrrrrrrrdy!

willy51
February 2nd, 2009, 10:30
http://willysamerica.com/forsale/index.html Look at the bottom for the pick up beds. Personaly though I want this http://willysamerica.com/forsale/46165e_front3.jpg god thats fugly

Carol.92124
February 2nd, 2009, 11:12
Personaly though I want this http://willysamerica.com/forsale/46165e_front3.jpg god thats fugly
Looks like a Corveep - Corvair/Jeep... :shudder:

GSequoia
February 2nd, 2009, 12:23
I'd totally rock an FC Mike. Those are so fugly they make me desire them.

willy51
February 2nd, 2009, 12:38
Oh yeah, id rock a Forward control, with 37"s and dana 60's all the way around. mmmm me likey

Xtreme XJ
February 2nd, 2009, 22:53
Phase I
Get it towable... and legal...
I'm close...
The starting point...
http://i33.tinypic.com/2zpimaq.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/9rrb54.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/15s1mqq.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/2yv8hew.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/5kqf43.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/242ekuf.jpg

The end of the day !!! Get'n close...

Curt

comrad_zeelaagee
February 3rd, 2009, 00:34
extreme- that's a massive frame you put together... why?

Xtreme XJ
February 3rd, 2009, 18:00
extreme- that's a massive frame you put together... why?

It's really not THAT massive... it's 3"X4"X 8th. the frame is 3+"X 5+"(I think... maybe more)... I actually wanted 3/16th., but after seeing the weight difference I went with 8th." The two sections that are inserted into the frame go all the way back to where the frame turns up and welded in several spots... the center square tubing will run the entire length of the bed and tie the tongue to the bottom of the bed and the rear bumper...
Why... cause it'll probably get beat on I hope it's tough enough...

Curt

scottmcneal
February 3rd, 2009, 18:03
I have seen how he drives :wow:, you need more curt :wave:.. Looks real nice .. Good job

WebDog
February 3rd, 2009, 20:13
What kind of hitch coupling is that on the trailer?

Xtreme XJ
February 3rd, 2009, 20:55
What kind of hitch coupling is that on the trailer?

It's a Lock-N-Roll
http://www.locknroll.com/index.aspx

Got it from Martyn at A.T.
http://www.adventuretrailers.com/accessories.html

Curt

alek21
February 4th, 2009, 10:45
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bar/1020055390.html

???

xj_mike
February 4th, 2009, 13:15
AHH.....please DON'T HURT ME! this is my 49 chevy pickup, it would be a shame.http://a222.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/44/l_1c63493052bcc7bb260cb549d0be18ed.jpg
jesse

NICE TRUCK!!!!!!!!!!

Prepmech
February 4th, 2009, 15:17
I like the way you cut the stock jeep frame rails and brought them up to meet the tounge section. It looks great.

1/8" steel for the tounge is going to be stronger than the original sheet metal "frame" of the bed.

OverlandZJ
February 5th, 2009, 14:38
my wish is to construct a expedition trailer from a truck bed. i have seen older chevy model beds with removable fenders that leave a bare bucket. i think 60-66? that's what i want- in the short bed flavor- so that affixing homebrew flat fenders and other items to the outside is simple and easy.



andy


Thats exactly what i found and picked up for my trailer. It's sitting by the garage awaiting spring.

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=938007

AJTorris
February 5th, 2009, 19:59
Well here is my idea. let me know what you all think....

I want to take a bed from a mj and cut the frame rails and put a tongue on it. On the bed where the cab goes i want to mount two spare tires for the trailer and my xj. (I plan on running the same tires and sizes on both). I plan on taking the factory axel out and put in a regular trailer axel in it. I want to put a carpet kit inside of the bed along with a camper shell. I figure i could mount a battery somewhere on the trailer tounge in a lock box that way i can have an electric heater and possibly a small cooler. I plan on adding a solar panel on top of the trailer to charge the battery a little while camping but plan on using the xj to charge it while towing the trailer. I also want to keep the factory gas tank where it is and put a Key switch to the tank with a hose running up to the front of the trailer by the spare tires. That way when i do go on a trip i can fill both my xj and the trailer with gas. (I am not sure if it is legal in California though).

What is your guys' input on my idea?

Xtreme XJ
February 9th, 2009, 22:18
Well here is my idea. let me know what you all think....

I want to take a bed from a mj and cut the frame rails and put a tongue on it. On the bed where the cab goes i want to mount two spare tires for the trailer and my xj. (I plan on running the same tires and sizes on both). I plan on taking the factory axel out and put in a regular trailer axel in it. I want to put a carpet kit inside of the bed along with a camper shell. I figure i could mount a battery somewhere on the trailer tounge in a lock box that way i can have an electric heater and possibly a small cooler. I plan on adding a solar panel on top of the trailer to charge the battery a little while camping but plan on using the xj to charge it while towing the trailer. I also want to keep the factory gas tank where it is and put a Key switch to the tank with a hose running up to the front of the trailer by the spare tires. That way when i do go on a trip i can fill both my xj and the trailer with gas. (I am not sure if it is legal in California though).

What is your guys' input on my idea?

It'll be weighty... I got rid of the O.E. tank for two reasons... one it adds weight and it'll be the first thing hit out on the trail... as to the shell it too will add extra weight... mine is this way right now and I will hopefully have it towable SOOON... I don't plan on keeping the shell and will lose it later. One of my thoughts is to lighten it up as much as possible then add back as NEEDED... or to trim the balance.
Look on the Adventure Forum for Prepmech's MJ bed build... it's NICE !!
I'm with you on the charging plans...
Curt