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grizzlyxj
April 5th, 2008, 20:11
I know there are a lot of no start threads, but I haven't found a solution to my problem. Several weeks ago my key would not turn to the "Start" position in my 89 XJ.
So, I purchased and installed a new Lock cylnder, but still no start. I decided that I would try the Ign Switch. This isn't a fun job either. So after a few hours, lowering the collumn and changing out the switch, still no start. All the electrical components work, I replaced the starter just last summer, so I'm wondering if it is a relay of some sort or a blown fuse link. I do not know where the links are located, or any kind of a starter relay. If anyone has any ideas some help would be nice. Thanks

Pelican
April 5th, 2008, 20:36
Did you try adjusting the switch up or down the steering column? There is a very small but critical range of movement that can prevent the start contacts from making contact. I don't know whether it is typical, but when I did mine several months ago, I found that too much one way, the accessory position wouldn't engage and too much the other way no start.

Don't know if this is your problem but you might try it. As I recall you can get at it to adjust without lowering the column.

magimerlin
April 5th, 2008, 20:40
The starter relay is up by the battery There is a pic of it in this thread.
http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=97288&highlight=starter+relay

grizzlyxj
April 5th, 2008, 20:45
When turned to the start position, all the gadges peg and the radio turns off, just like normal, but nothing else. I still have the wheel off and the collumn down, so I'll try to adjust the starter.

grizzlyxj
April 5th, 2008, 21:14
If I jumped the starter and it fired up, I guess that would rule out the starter relay, Thus putting the problem somewhere in the ignition switch area?

Kiefer316
April 6th, 2008, 00:19
i just replaced my ignition cylinder and it started the first time and wouldn't start after that also...my buddy jumped it and it started it was weird but it worked

Saudade
April 6th, 2008, 08:27
Are you saying that now you can turn the key and it DOES go to the start position? What about the other positions, like accessory?

The switch can be adjusted to compensate for any slack in the actuator rod. You may only need to scoot the switch over a bit.

grizzlyxj
April 6th, 2008, 08:59
The key turns to the start position, but nothing happens. It does the same thing before I decided to change out the ignition switch, which leads me to believe that the problem is elsewhere.

88 Wagonman
April 6th, 2008, 09:20
If I jumped the starter and it fired up, I guess that would rule out the starter relay, Thus putting the problem somewhere in the ignition switch area?

There is a seperate relay for the starter that is on the passenger side behind the battery. Follow the smaller red cable from the battery, it will lead you to it.

magimerlin
April 6th, 2008, 10:22
OK sorry about posting a link to the manual. I have seen this posted a many a time befor so I figured it was fine. I have it from the result of a post on here aswell. As I cannot edit my post can a mod please remove my link to it. Thank you

REPOXP777
April 6th, 2008, 10:49
Have you cleaned the NSS ?? http://jeepin.com/features/nss/index.asp

Saudade
April 6th, 2008, 12:12
You said in your first post that you couldn't turn the key to the Start position. They would typically point to the switch or lock cylinder. If you are able to turn the key all the way, and you had the problem before, it would point elsewhere.

You can search the forum for how to temporarily bypass the NSS to see if that's the problem. Also, try cranking it in neutral. Do your backup lights work?

grizzlyxj
April 6th, 2008, 14:15
Tried jumping the starter and it runs like a charm. I have no Idea why but the ignition works fine now. Thank you all fro you help :)

XJ Stryker
April 6th, 2008, 17:18
yippie!!!!

Shorty
April 6th, 2008, 18:44
When turned to the start position, all the gadges peg and the radio turns off, just like normal, but nothing else. I still have the wheel off and the collumn down, so I'll try to adjust the starter.

Neutral safety switch failure will give you these results. search on cleaning it and you'll most likely find your culprit