8Mud
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96 4.0 AW4. Where I'm at: Ran fine, parked it and then the next day no start. Has no pressure on the fuel rail. I swapped some relays around still no pressure. Checked for power at the fuel pump plug, had no juice. Made a jumper and jumped the relay, power in, to pump power pins (spades) and got fuel to the rail. Still no start.
Checked the activation power to the relay and the ground through the PCM, both tested good, the activation current for the relay was around 10.5 volts and there was a ground there (through the PCM). The newer style relays are quiet and it's hard to tell when they activate.
I tested for spark and didn't get any, though the ground I used was questionable.
A couple of funny things. The female spade connectors in the relay socket seem really loose (could be my problem). They may have overheated, I may have a partial short someplace. Not enough to blow the fuse, but enough to heat things up.
It started snowing, so I knocked off. Today I plan on a pressure test and to check for spark again (with a better ground).
The wifes 96 is kind of a bastard, it's some different than other 96's I've seen, but not exactly the same as a 95. I was getting a strange ground path, the relay power out to the pump (with the pump plug disconnected) had some type of ground path, that according to my schematics shouldn't be there.
Another oddity, I'm not having any luck retrieving the codes by the key methode. Question, does the check engine light normally come on when the key is in the run position? I can't really remember (mine doesn't), the 96 is the wifes XJ and I don't often drive it. I'm hoping the problems don't go deeper than the fuel pump relay/power circuit. I've had little trouble in the past retrieving the codes, other than having to repeat several times, to get the rythem right.
Any suggestions or anything that sounds familiar?
If anybody has a full page schematic (private message) for the 96 (relay and fuel system), it could be helpfull (or maybe a 95, I'm thinking what I have is a combination of both). What I have doesn't match either All Data 96 or the OBD 1 schematics I have on hand exactly. The layout of the actuall relay box and what my owners manual specifies is even rather different.
Any help or suggestions that my shorten my time out in the cold and may help to avoid a towing charge will be appreciated (I don't really know if the auto club will tow from the house to the dealer for free?). I may have to bite the bullet and put it on the machine at the dealer, the wife wants her Jeep now!
Checked the activation power to the relay and the ground through the PCM, both tested good, the activation current for the relay was around 10.5 volts and there was a ground there (through the PCM). The newer style relays are quiet and it's hard to tell when they activate.
I tested for spark and didn't get any, though the ground I used was questionable.
A couple of funny things. The female spade connectors in the relay socket seem really loose (could be my problem). They may have overheated, I may have a partial short someplace. Not enough to blow the fuse, but enough to heat things up.
It started snowing, so I knocked off. Today I plan on a pressure test and to check for spark again (with a better ground).
The wifes 96 is kind of a bastard, it's some different than other 96's I've seen, but not exactly the same as a 95. I was getting a strange ground path, the relay power out to the pump (with the pump plug disconnected) had some type of ground path, that according to my schematics shouldn't be there.
Another oddity, I'm not having any luck retrieving the codes by the key methode. Question, does the check engine light normally come on when the key is in the run position? I can't really remember (mine doesn't), the 96 is the wifes XJ and I don't often drive it. I'm hoping the problems don't go deeper than the fuel pump relay/power circuit. I've had little trouble in the past retrieving the codes, other than having to repeat several times, to get the rythem right.
Any suggestions or anything that sounds familiar?
If anybody has a full page schematic (private message) for the 96 (relay and fuel system), it could be helpfull (or maybe a 95, I'm thinking what I have is a combination of both). What I have doesn't match either All Data 96 or the OBD 1 schematics I have on hand exactly. The layout of the actuall relay box and what my owners manual specifies is even rather different.
Any help or suggestions that my shorten my time out in the cold and may help to avoid a towing charge will be appreciated (I don't really know if the auto club will tow from the house to the dealer for free?). I may have to bite the bullet and put it on the machine at the dealer, the wife wants her Jeep now!
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