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Between A Rock And A Hard Place

Ed A. Stevens

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BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE

This month, briefs will be filed in the U.S. Court of
Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in a case that may resolve
what has been, over the last year, a constitutional anomaly.
In 2004, one Ninth Circuit panel held that a Latin cross,
erected on federal lands to honor those who gave their lives
in World War I, violated the Establishment Clause and must
be removed. Later, another Ninth Circuit panel held that
Arizona's designation of private property as sacred to
American Indians and off limits to use did not violate the
Establishment Clause and could stand! Thus, "no" to
Christianity; "yes" to pantheism. The Ninth Circuit refused
to hear the Arizona case en banc to resolve this conflict.

Now comes a case from a Nevada federal district court that
could force another Ninth Circuit panel to decide which
panel's view of the Establishment Clause is correct. The
case, Access Fund v. U.S. Department of Agriculture, et al.,
challenges the district court's ruling that the Forest
Service's decision to close Cave Rock at Lake Tahoe to all
climbing because it is sacred to some American Indians does
not violate the Constitution's Establishment Clause. In
rejecting the climbers' constitutional argument, the Nevada
federal district court relied on the Ninth Circuit panel's
ruling in the Arizona sacred private lands case. Held the
Nevada court: "The Establishment Clause does not require
government to ignore the historical value of religious
sites[;] protecting culturally important Native American
sites has historic value for the nation as a whole because
of the unique status of Native American Societies in North
American history."

However, the Nevada district court's ruling ignores that,
for the past 30 years, the "history" and "culture"
associated with religious symbols embraced by governments
have not saved them from court rulings that those
governments had abandoned their constitutionally required
neutrality. For example, in last year's panel's ruling
regarding the Latin cross, its historical and cultural
importance as a symbol that 116,000 Americans left their
homes and families and gave their lives in Europe must,
indeed, be "ignore[d]" given what the cross represents.
What is "unique," therefore, about American Indian religion
that would permit its practitioners to demand to go where
other religions dare not: the public square? In a word,
"nothing;" in fact, that is what the U.S. Supreme Court
ruled back in 1988.

In Lyng v. Northwest Indian Cemetery Protective Ass'n, the
Court, in a Justice O'Connor opinion, rejected the demands
by three American Indian Tribes in northwestern California
that portions of the national forest traditionally used by
them for religious purposes be closed to logging and road
building:

Nothing in the principle for which [the Tribes]
contend, however, would distinguish this case from
another lawsuit in which they (or similarly situated
religious objectors) might seek to exclude all human
activity but their own from sacred areas of the public
lands. . . . Whatever rights the Indians may have to
the use of the area, however, those rights do not
divest the Government of its right to use what is,
after all, its land.

Yet even if the Lyng case were not the binding legal
precedent that it is, Establishment Clause jurisprudence
makes clear that the Forest Service's decision at Cave Rock
runs afoul of every traditional Supreme Court test, for the
Forest Service's action "advances," "endorses," and
"entangles" itself with American Indian religion. By
agreeing with American Indians that Cave Rock is sacred and
by rejecting the view of climbers that it is not, the Forest
Service "conveys a message of endorsement," informing
American Indian religious practitioners that they are
"insiders" and the climbers that they are "outsiders."
Indeed, the Forest Service is not demanding that non-Indians
simply "respect" American Indian religion; it is
"employ[ing] the machinery of the state to enforce religious
orthodoxy" that views Cave Rock as sacred!

If the Ninth Circuit fails to get it right, the Supreme
Court awaits.

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I don't expect the Ninth Circuit to get it right. Remember the Newdow case? They granted his injunction - and his daughter didn't care and he wasn't the custodial parent, either!

I'm inclined to think the Ninth Circuit should be disbanded en bloc and reformed - but what we get might be worse than what we've got. THERE'S your "rock and a hard place..."

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at the risk of being un popular i state my case very clearly, one nation under god! or how about this, In God We Trust.
It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore, it is very hard to understand why there is such a mess about having the Ten Commandments on display or "In God We Trust" on our money and having God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't we just tell the other 14% to Sit Down and SHUT UP!!! if we believe in religious freedom as the nation was founded on we should respect the sacred religious places of all religions and alow crosses and sacred sites to be kept in place and un disturbed, weather or not it is on public lands.
if you dont like the pledge of aligence dont say it, if you dont like the fact that in god we trust is on our money GIVE IT TO ME AND USE CREDIT CARDS OR CHECKS INSTEAD! OR BETTER YET LEAVE THIS COUNTRY AND SEE HOW WELL YOU LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLDS FREEDOMS. GOD BLESS AMERICA!
I HOPE I HAVENT OFFENDED ANY ONE WITH WHAT MY VIEWS ARE BUT IF I DID WELL, THAT IS MY RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH AT WORK AND IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, DONT READ IT OR LISTEN TO IT, ITS UP TO YOU.

I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue
somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I
don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a
lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory
of evolution

Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be
endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer
before a football game.

So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there
reading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a
God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the
players on the field and the fans going home from the game.
"But it's a Christian prayer," some will argue.

Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country
founded on Christian principles. According to our very
own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others
better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody
chanting Hare Krishna?

If I went to a football game in Jerusalem,
I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer.


If I went to a soccer game in
Baghdad,
I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer.


If I went to a ping pong match in
China,
I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha.


And I wouldn't be offended.
It wouldn't bother me one bit.
When in
Rome.

"But what about the atheists?" is another argument.

What about them?
Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to
pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If
that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear
plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand.
Call your lawyer!

Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or
two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do.
I don't think a short prayer at a football game is
going to shake the world's foundations.

Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other
cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our
parents and grandparents taught us to pray before
eating; to pray before we go to sleep.

Our Bible tells us to pray without ceasing. Now a
handful of people and their lawyers are telling us
to cease praying.

God, help us.
And if that last sentence offends you,
well ...
just sue me.


The silent majority has been silent too long. It's time we
let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard
... that the vast majority don't care what they want. It
is time the majority rules! It's time we tell them, you don't
have to pray; you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance;
you don't have to believe in God or attend services that
honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your
right. But by golly, you are no longer going to take our
rights away We . are fighting back ...
and weWILL WIN!

God bless us one and all . especially those who denounce
Him. God bless America, despite all her faults. She is still
the greatest nation of all.

God bless our service men who are fighting to protect
our right to pray and worship God.


May 2005 be the year the silent majority is heard
and we put God back as the foundation of our
families and institutions.

Keep looking up.
 
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Steagall9301, That is exactly my feelings. A Nation without God as its foundtion is a Nation in hurt. Having been over seas many times to many different counrties, I have seen first had what these people go through daily. Yes they are in part victims of thier goverenment, but most of thier goverments started out as communist parties or some form of dictatorship. Every counrty has and is having very hard times. Except USA, Because we have a strong foundation. But what happens is we leave that foundation??? Thats for you to think about. I would MUCH rather have a shack on the rocks then a castle in the sand.

Look at Israel. Such a small counrty that has been attacked more times and by stronger armys then it should have been able to defend. Any other Countries would have fallen under such attacks. But Gods chosen people have survived despite all odds. God promised to protect His people, no matter who they are or where they are. That is His promise. Are you one of His children????? Thats where the real thought is.


This is not a popular subject I am sure, all I am asking is for you to think about it. Sorrys if I affended anyone. At least I know Gods not affended!
 
Amen. We need to stop worrying about being politically correct and start being spritually correct. We need to stand up for what we know in our hearts is right and stopping letting the few people speaking the loudest run the country. This country is turning away from God and it's starting to show. One day we will all be held accountable for our actions. You will not want to hear "Depart from Me, I knew you not."
 
Pogiboy said:
Steagall9301, That is exactly my feelings. i know this is not a popular subject I am sure, all I am asking is for you to think about it. Sorrys if I offended anyone. At least I know Gods not offended!
you want to know the truth?? i dont care if i do offend any one with MY OPINION because i have fought for the freedom to say what i want where i want when i want in this nations military and i have been offended by the anti religion people taking my rights to pray where i want to and when i want to and the removal of our nations moral foundations by right wing liberals and LEGAL MONEY GRABBERS AND SCARED POLITITIONS AND JUDGES FOR TOO LONG!! sorry for yelling, i didnt mean to offend. how ironic.

well i said enough for now, God bless you and God bless America!

P.S. i am not really a very religous person, i dont go to church and i dont pray as much as i should, but i am a believer in all peoples rights to practise there religion free from persicution as long as it causes no harm to anyone and i feel that no one has the right to tell me not to say "under God" during the pledge!
 
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