Yet another Dana 30 build - what am I forgetting?

hjeepxj · May 6, 2014

Just picked up the Dana 30 I will be using, thanks to a fellow CO board member.

I am going to complete this and then dial in the steering, it is going to be a slow process at first.

This is the list I have:

Trackbar Bracket JKS $43
Swaybar Brackets (x2) JKS $40
Akenobo Calipers Jeepsareus $209
Slotted Rotors Iron Rock $140
Hub Spacers (x2) JKS $40
D30 Truss Ballistic Fab $82
Artec Inner C Gussets Artec $80

WJ Knuckles $100
01 XJ Hubs $80
01 XJ Upper Ball Joints $40
01 WJ Lower Ball Joints $40

TOTAL $894

Barnes 4wd LCA Mounts HAVE
Barnes 4wd UCA Mount HAVE
Crane Diff Cover HAVE
Axle Tube Seals HAVE
Super 30 Kit w/ARB HAVE
Dana 30 R&P Install Kit HAVE
D30 HP 4.88 Gears HAVE

Two questions so far, if I get a set of Teves WJ knuckles, and the "Jeepsareus" Akenobo calipers, will I have to source a set of Akenobo caliper brackets? I can't tell if they come with the Jeepsareus setup.

Also, already having an aftermarket HD UCA mount for the passenger side, will it be effective to use the Balistic fab truss? Or should I grab some 2x4 thick box steel and fab one?

1990JEEPXJ · May 6, 2014

Sounds like you have it all covered. You can use your existing passenger side UCA with the ballistic truss. You'll just have to cut around it. It's not a big deal. That's what I did.

Boatwrench · May 6, 2014

Did you review this write up in the FAQ section?

hjeepxj · May 7, 2014

1990JEEPXJ said:
Sounds like you have it all covered. You can use your existing passenger side UCA with the ballistic truss. You'll just have to cut around it. It's not a big deal. That's what I did.

I already have a Barnes passenger side UCA mount - but your statement is still valid.

Thank you for your input! That is the plan

Boatwrench said:
Did you review this write up in the FAQ section?

Yes.

Thank you.

jeeperjohn · May 7, 2014

hjeepxj said:
Barnes passenger side UCA mount.

Got a link?

hjeepxj · May 7, 2014

jeeperjohn said:
Got a link?

I actually don't know if it is Barnes, it's third hand at this point, but here's a pic:

jeeperjohn · May 7, 2014

Looks purty. Couldn't find it on Barnes website.

hjeepxj · May 8, 2014

jeeperjohn said:
Looks purty. Couldn't find it on Barnes website.

It's baller status with the star cut into it. :sunshine:

In all seriousness it is thick as heck.

jeeperjohn · May 8, 2014

That star improves efficiency by 40% :grin:

DeftwillP · May 8, 2014

pretty sure that it is indeed barnes with that star speed hole

Jeepedo129 · May 9, 2014

I was lookin at doing the ballistic truss, it's a good truss. I ultimately decided against it and went with Artec's truss, it comes in pieces so cutting it to fit your UCA mount will be much easier, plus I was able to pick it up from 4wheel parts for 89$ with out paying for shipping.

I used '03 TJ unit bearings/hubs for the WJ swap, they may be the same PN. I can check in the morning. But the Akebono caliper brackets are different than the Teves brackets. Most of the time if you buy loaded calipers they will come with new caliper brackets, guides, pins and pads.

Just my .02$

hjeepxj · May 9, 2014

jeeperjohn said:
That star improves efficiency by 40% :grin:

I was hoping for 50-60%...

DeftwillP said:
pretty sure that it is indeed barnes with that star speed hole

10-4

Jeepedo129 said:
I was lookin at doing the ballistic truss, it's a good truss. I ultimately decided against it and went with Artec's truss, it comes in pieces so cutting it to fit your UCA mount will be much easier, plus I was able to pick it up from 4wheel parts for 89$ with out paying for shipping.

I used '03 TJ unit bearings/hubs for the WJ swap, they may be the same PN. I can check in the morning. But the Akebono caliper brackets are different than the Teves brackets. Most of the time if you buy loaded calipers they will come with new caliper brackets, guides, pins and pads.

Just my .02$

$89 isn't bad - was it a sale? I have a 4 Wheel Parts local.

I like the Artec truss, it's just more expensive especially considering I'm going to have to mod the heck out of it to get the P. side UCA mount to fit.

Thank you for the WJ info, LMK on the TJ part #. If all else fails, I can grab some TJ hubs.

Also, it looks like I'll have to clarify with Jeepsareus on whether or not they come with the brackets.

Thanks again!!

whitexj98 · May 9, 2014

Sell the barnes mount and get the uppers that key right into the artec truss for another 10$. They are designed to fit a JJ but I clearenced mine to fit a sleeve I got from IRO to fit a regualr bushing.

You clould also cut the barns mount to sit on top of the artec truss.

sidewaysstarion · May 9, 2014

Dont forget to get some TJ Rubicon front D44 inner axle seals. The 30 spline shafts are much larger than the cute little stock 27 spline shafts.

1990JEEPXJ · May 9, 2014

Jeepedo129 said:
I was lookin at doing the ballistic truss, it's a good truss. I ultimately decided against it and went with Artec's truss, it comes in pieces so cutting it to fit your UCA mount will be much easier

The ballistic truss comes in pieces too....

Jeepedo129 · May 10, 2014

X2 on whitexj98. He gave me the idea for mine as well.

I checked on the hubs, Orielly's has them listed as the same PN. So you're good.

4wheelparts has the truss listed at 89.99 with free shipping. That's really the main reason I went with the Artec truss over ballistic.Click me!

I did something similar with the UCA, but to clear out some metal for yours wouldn't be bad, just comes down to personal preference.

sunburned · May 10, 2014

If you already have the ballistic truss, just use it. I cut the top piece so it would fit around the passenger side UCA and braced the hell out of it. I had a 3-link and didn't have a UCA mount on the driver's side although the top of the truss is obviously made thick enough to hold one though.

markw · May 10, 2014

Get the clayton axle side trackbar bracket. The JKS is a bit short for WJ. They sell a whole WJ conversion kit with everything which is a bit pricey, but they also sell the individual parts. Their track bar bracket and swaybar mounts will work better. The ballistic fab truss requires you whack off drivers side UCA mount. The ARTEC truss is probably the nicest D30 truss out there, I've installed a couple. Do the artec with the johnny joints and the Clayton track bar bracket. The Ballistic truss will bend if you put a drivers side UCA mount on it unless you weld it to the diff housing.

https://www.claytonoffroad.com/temp...ALL&subname=na&pagename=Online Store > ALL >

https://www.claytonoffroad.com/temp...e=Online Store > > High Steer Swaybar Mount

hjeepxj · May 11, 2014

sidewaysstarion said:
Dont forget to get some TJ Rubicon front D44 inner axle seals. The 30 spline shafts are much larger than the cute little stock 27 spline shafts.

Good call!

Jeepedo129 said:
X2 on whitexj98. He gave me the idea for mine as well.

I checked on the hubs, Orielly's has them listed as the same PN. So you're good.

4wheelparts has the truss listed at 89.99 with free shipping. That's really the main reason I went with the Artec truss over ballistic.Click me!

I did something similar with the UCA, but to clear out some metal for yours wouldn't be bad, just comes down to personal preference.

I think I have been convinced on the Artec truss, it will be just as easy to cut it to fit as it would the Barnes truss.

Thank you for the link!!! That is a great price!

sunburned said:
If you already have the ballistic truss, just use it. I cut the top piece so it would fit around the passenger side UCA and braced the hell out of it. I had a 3-link and didn't have a UCA mount on the driver's side although the top of the truss is obviously made thick enough to hold one though.

I don't have the Barnes truss - nice setup though!! Looks stout

markw said:
Get the clayton axle side trackbar bracket. The JKS is a bit short for WJ. They sell a whole WJ conversion kit with everything which is a bit pricey, but they also sell the individual parts. Their track bar bracket and swaybar mounts will work better. The ballistic fab truss requires you whack off drivers side UCA mount. The ARTEC truss is probably the nicest D30 truss out there, I've installed a couple. Do the artec with the johnny joints and the Clayton track bar bracket. The Ballistic truss will bend if you put a drivers side UCA mount on it unless you weld it to the diff housing.

Thank you very much for the insight, I will do the Clayton Trackbar and swaybar mounts, along with the Artec truss.

You weren't kidding on the price of the WJ Conversion:

https://www.claytonoffroad.com/temp...> High Steer System (TJ and LJ and XJ and ZJ)

Seriously might as well do a 44 for that $!

markw · May 12, 2014

yup, I can source knuckles here for way cheaper, and build the trackbar and drag link out of 1.25" .120 wall, then do a 1.5" .25 wall with offset TRE's for the tie rod.

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