410 gears on 355 carrier?

jeeptorino68 · Mar 5, 2011

can i swap 410 gears into my jeep without getting new carriers?
what is the ratio split?
92 4.0 AW4 355 gears right now D35 and D30

thanks

NW-ZJ-SCOTT · Mar 5, 2011

no. Carrier break is 3.73 and up

You will need a 3.73 carrier for both axles, the good news is you can get them at the junkyard, just find a 5.2 v8 Grand cherokee 93-95

xjtrailrider · Mar 5, 2011

If you had an 8.25 in the rear there is no carrier split but unfortunately you have the Craptastic D-35 so like stated, it and the D-30 both have a 3.55- or a 3.73+ carrier split.

This pic shows the minimal but mandatory difference in the 2 D-30 carriers
Note the carrier with no side/spiders is a 3.55- and the loaded carrier is a 3.73+

And if you want to compare strength, look at the stock carriers compared to my D-30 Detroit Locker:shhh:

jeeptorino68 · Mar 5, 2011

thanks for the info

so i can use a GC carrier, but not the gears right? since they are high pinion?

hagermanfolley · Mar 5, 2011

xjtrailrider said:
If you had an 8.25 in the rear there is no carrier split but unfortunately you have the Craptastic D-35 so like stated, it and the D-30 both have a 3.55- or a 3.73+ carrier split.

This pic shows the minimal but mandatory difference in the 2 D-30 carriers
Note the carrier with no side/spiders is a 3.55- and the loaded carrier is a 3.73+

And if you want to compare strength, look at the stock carriers compared to my D-30 Detroit Locker:shhh:

So if you have a 8.25 you dont need a new carrier to change gears?

xjtrailrider · Mar 5, 2011

hagermanfolley said:
So if you have a 8.25 you dont need a new carrier to change gears?

No, there is no carrier break on the 8.25, you use the same carrier for all R&P ratios. The 8.25 maxes out at 4.88 though and honestly I would never run tires larger than 35" on a 29 spline 8.25 anyway.

If you want to go bigger or if you want to go bulletproof then consider something more substantial than the 8.8/D-44/29 spline 8.25. They are all comparable in strength. Full width is the next step

31" is max on a D-35

We have beat this subject up on here for years so do some searching for your options

xjtrailrider · Mar 5, 2011

jeeptorino68 said:
thanks for the info

so i can use a GC carrier, but not the gears right? since they are high pinion?

Right, carriers will work for either HP or LP, for your XJ you need "reverse cut" or HP gear-set.

jeeptorino68 · Mar 5, 2011

thanks

GREASYHANDS · Mar 5, 2011

Are there any markings/ stampings on the carriers to identify what ratio they can hold?

xcm · Mar 5, 2011

for the dana 30....

GrimmJeeper said:
How would I go about making sure what I am buying used with no gears on it is actually a higher (numerically) ratio carrier for the Dana 30?

ROBERTK said:
You can measure the deck height too.

Set carrier on end, so ring gear mounting surface is facing up, and measure from ring gear mounting surface surface its sitting on.

The 3.54 & numerically lower is 1.810"
The 3.73 & numerically higher is 1.943"

for the d35... throw it all out, theyre not worth re-gearing.

RoyalXJ · Mar 5, 2011

xcm said:
for the d35... throw it all out, theyre not worth re-gearing.

X2

WB9YZU · Mar 6, 2011

Now don't start that again...

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