• Welcome to the new NAXJA Forum! If your password does not work, please use "Forgot your password?" link on the log-in page. Please feel free to reach out to [email protected] if we can provide any assistance.

Input on The Union

what union? i know plenty of happy long shoreman, pipe fitters, steam fitters, sprinkler fitters, etc. :dunno:

Are you asking for an oppinon of Unions in general, or specific ones here in SoCal?
 
My take on unions is that they are a waste of money and nothing but bad for business...


Back in the day they had their purpose, but nowadays they just care about making more money.

I work in a shipyard that is doing layoffs weekly, yet the union is pushing for higher wages. I make 21 /hr and have a 401k, medical, dental and vacation time. Safe working environment, for being in a shipyard.

Now why on earth would they try to get a raise which would without a doubt cause further job losses. Why not wait till things pick up?


Look at what unions did to the auto union...



That's just my opinion though...
 
Well two weeks ago I was picking up my check on an off day and in the parking lot was a guy on a Harley looking like some biker. So he introduced him self and well lets just say he is the president of the AWPPW this is a pulp and paper mill ( Kimberly Clark) plant in the fullerton and we in Redlands are geting paid all most half there wage and we do the same thing they do in fullerton. This came down pretty nasty today. I was to to see the plant manager and the HR was present. Well I got suspended for not wearing my seat belt on the forklift. They pick and choose who they want to screw with. I got with the parent company union rep and filed charges against them to the NLRB. Labor board. Guys at this site are tired of the last minute policy changes and flex the rules when they want. I had to turn over my security badge and escorted by management and the security guard to my rig. I used words when I left that I have not said in a really long time . Super beyond kind of pissed or UFC pissed off. Sorry about this rant . Its not over we sent HR a fax of the wrongfully charge against me. I was told to call HR in the morning until this investivation was over. After taking everthing out of my locker and company ID badge. BS
 
tcm glx said:
Union sucks (just my experience working with them).
Click to expand...

x10000000000

They built our country and now they are tearing the country down.
 
you filed a complaint because you were reprimanded for not following safety procedures? did you not know you were supposed to have it on?

I don't understand what the rant is about, is it because someone else makes more money than you working just as hard? welcome to the club!
 
Unions suck! There used to be a time and place for them, but not now, not today.....

They cause higher prices for businesses, union members, and customers/consumers.... nobody wins...

I believe in fair treatment, but too many people are "protected" and don't really deserve it. Union members can give themselves a raise by droppping out and not paying union dues....
 
Theres a cap on the wage here and a strict point system fired for simple stuff. Always pushing for more and taking care of the employees. BS. Why do big companies piss on the workers who keep there business running. Do you think the customers would buy there product if you knew the supplier was making bank and beating the employees. Get the point yet. Like i said you do not have a voice that counts. California dogs the idea anmore. think about making crappy wages and after two years no more increase only the cost of joke living. Ya, in the Socal. Raise everything but the workers salary. Yes Unions are different from back in the day less violence now more paper work in the war room. I need a trail run bad. clear my mind of this life effecting drama. Sometimes just wrenchin under the ZJ cures all the problems. Kick up some dirt some were. Grimms desert run would be killer but I might not want to come back to reality. I will survive another blast.
 
GrimmJeeper said:
you filed a complaint because you were reprimanded for not following safety procedures? did you not know you were supposed to have it on?

I don't understand what the rant is about, is it because someone else makes more money than you working just as hard? welcome to the club!
Click to expand...
I was releaseing the trailer from the dock and had the seat belt off for a minute rolling back and the supervisor came by and said buckle up. I said thanks for reminding me and an hour later i was called to the office and it went from there We push out alot of product they have five shift over lapping each other. This company make so much money so why not give the guys a decent wage and not have to work the friggin 40 to 60 hour of ot. The company leases the building. wtf. Would you not want to take care of your workers if they made you bank. Hasta
 
InlandZJ said:
Well two weeks ago I was picking up my check on an off day and in the parking lot was a guy on a Harley looking like some biker. So he introduced him self and well lets just say he is the president of the AWPPW this is a pulp and paper mill ( Kimberly Clark) plant in the fullerton and we in Redlands are geting paid all most half there wage and we do the same thing they do in fullerton. This came down pretty nasty today. I was to to see the plant manager and the HR was present. Well I got suspended for not wearing my seat belt on the forklift. They pick and choose who they want to screw with. I got with the parent company union rep and filed charges against them to the NLRB. Labor board. Guys at this site are tired of the last minute policy changes and flex the rules when they want. I had to turn over my security badge and escorted by management and the security guard to my rig. I used words when I left that I have not said in a really long time . Super beyond kind of pissed or UFC pissed off. Sorry about this rant . Its not over we sent HR a fax of the wrongfully charge against me. I was told to call HR in the morning until this investivation was over. After taking everthing out of my locker and company ID badge. BS
Click to expand...

Wait, you broke a rule and are pissed they did something about it?
There has to be more to the story than that, previous offense, still on probation, something.


You sound like someone who would want the union.

No offense meant, but you gotta be responsible for yourself and work safe.

Wither you think its a big deal or not, rules are there for a reason.

My dad almost lost his leg driving a forklift because it had the wrong type of tire. It flopped on its side and he didn't have a belt on and is crushed his leg. They wanted to amputate it, but his dad said no. 20 some years later he has ZERO feeling in his leg because of it.

Follow the rules at all times esp when operating machinery and work hard.
Then you will have no need for union help and can save your money.

.02
 
Having worked union and non union I am not sure which is better. Someone needs to be there for the worker when the company wants to screw you but on the other hand unions are killing our major industries with unreasonable demands. Ask a laid off auto worker what they think of unions.
 
I will give my my opinion, my dad worked for heavy equipment operators union for 30 years, and they treated us good. But growing older, and understanding how things work, not all unions are good.
 
tharlanjr said:
Wait, you broke a rule and are pissed they did something about it?
There has to be more to the story than that, previous offense, still on probation, something.


You sound like someone who would want the union.

No offense meant, but you gotta be responsible for yourself and work safe.

Wither you think its a big deal or not, rules are there for a reason.

My dad almost lost his leg driving a forklift because it had the wrong type of tire. It flopped on its side and he didn't have a belt on and is crushed his leg. They wanted to amputate it, but his dad said no. 20 some years later he has ZERO feeling in his leg because of it.

Follow the rules at all times esp when operating machinery and work hard.
Then you will have no need for union help and can save your money.

.02
Click to expand...
Most of the time I wear my glasses and seat belt driving backwards and honking the horn. Ever since I spoke with this union president in the parking lot with the supervisor comming outside to speak with this guy things have been really tight new private property sighs were posted but, yet a lady comes buy and caters food to some of the workers. Pick and choose is how this is. The leader ship is breaking the rules daily. I was hired to do a job and my record shows (clean then after this encounter things changed. Sorry, about your dad i have seen a lady along time ago have her leg run over. I'm totally for saftey but no writin warrning ,verbal, just the one strike law.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

W
AAL kit; Input Please
Replies
5
Views
150
Wander Motor
W
macgyvr
What can we do better?
Replies
0
Views
55
macgyvr
macgyvr
M
Any recommended brand Evaporator?
Replies
5
Views
2K
cruiser54
C
M
NP 231 input shaft
Replies
3
Views
2K
RCP Phx
R
Z
(Rare??) 1996 jeep xj with the seat riser/crossmember like the 1997 model
Replies
5
Views
86
Rob Mayercik
R
Back
Top