Rusty from Cleveland
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- Cleveland, TN
Hello all,
Long time since I have been here, but this is still the BEST place around for XJ info, and therefore I wanted to ask a few questions.
It's tire time again and as always I find myself wanting something different than I have used already, and in this case I have to change because my current 30x9.50/15 Sidewinder AT's are no longer produced. Really liked these tires and they would do nearly anything really well until where they are now, which is getting pretty close to dangerous. The biggest drawback has been their loss of side lugs. I bet I have torn off every 4th lug, or maybe even more. The locker in the rear doesn't help keep them on either when the side lug is the only thing biting in a rocky hillclimb environment when if the locker were gone my other tire would obviously just be spinning. Anyway....
My hunt for tires has an economic background..as in not much money. I don't want a purely street tire because I love playing in slick spots here and there (I guess we could all say that<pun intended>) but for the mostpart I love going to the mountains of East TN and Western NC in the Tellico/Citico/Nantahala/Cherokee areas and DEEP snow traction is a major concern (see 15-25 inches of snow regularly, but here in the valley usually get a dusting or two per year or just lots of rain but it's all snow in the mtns), however I don't make but just half a dozen trips per year up there. I'd have been looking at everything in the lower cost bracket from Kumho AT's, to Mastercraft Courser AT's and CT's (made by Cooper but a little less expensive) and several others, but then ran across the old Kelly Wintermark HT "High Void" snow tire. I know that tire has been around a long time and I am just going back to a 235/75x15 hopefully to gain a little better mileage since the best I got with the 30s was 19.5mpg and my old 225/75x15's got 22.5 best all-time for me. Trust me, I'd love to throw some 31's on, but I still like to disconnect the front sometimes if on the rougher stuff and to not like my teeth rattled out and fuel is obviously an ongoing EXPENSIVE expense, hehe. I have recently purchased some snow/tire chains that will fit 235's or 30's so want to stick within that range and 225s are minimally smaller than 235's but dang, they look so tiny and out of place (even if they do get better mileage). My main question is if anyone has ran the Kelly Wintermark before and if it can reasonably be used in the Southeast US throughout the year and still get reasonable tire wear. Seen so many different articles about winter tires and snow tires and various compounds that are softer/more flexible in cold weather and that sounds great in that condition, but I don't want the tires turning to tar when it's 100F outside either. The Wintermarks are 100 bucks less than the cheapest AT tire I can find and they still have a decent side lug. This is my daily driver and I put probably 8-10K mi on my XJ per year as it's rarely driven more than 100 mi at a time and usually sees maybe 100mi a week of mostly city. My Sidewinder AT's have probably 25-30K on them and have been on about 4.5-5 yrs and I may be able to get another 2K on them. My tires don't typically last long on my Jeep (in my opinion, when I hear multiple stories of people getting 100k on a tire that I got 45k out of). My factory Goodyear Wrangler RTS's prob got 25k on them and my Michelin LTX M/S got approx 45k.
Part of me wants to get an aggressive AT like the Cooper ST or the Mastercraft Courser CT, then another part wants to get the cheapest least aggressive AT I can find and automatically chain up when I hit the snow, and another wants to get the Wintermark because it's the cheapest thing around and know I will have good snow traction and a big side lug too that hopefully won't be ripped off.
Would love to see your observations on all tires listed above or anything similar in the similar cost range.
For the record. 99 XJ 4x4 6cyl 4dr sport, 8.25 Chry rear axle w/ No-Slip rear locker, open front diff
Thanks
Rusty
Long time since I have been here, but this is still the BEST place around for XJ info, and therefore I wanted to ask a few questions.
It's tire time again and as always I find myself wanting something different than I have used already, and in this case I have to change because my current 30x9.50/15 Sidewinder AT's are no longer produced. Really liked these tires and they would do nearly anything really well until where they are now, which is getting pretty close to dangerous. The biggest drawback has been their loss of side lugs. I bet I have torn off every 4th lug, or maybe even more. The locker in the rear doesn't help keep them on either when the side lug is the only thing biting in a rocky hillclimb environment when if the locker were gone my other tire would obviously just be spinning. Anyway....
My hunt for tires has an economic background..as in not much money. I don't want a purely street tire because I love playing in slick spots here and there (I guess we could all say that<pun intended>) but for the mostpart I love going to the mountains of East TN and Western NC in the Tellico/Citico/Nantahala/Cherokee areas and DEEP snow traction is a major concern (see 15-25 inches of snow regularly, but here in the valley usually get a dusting or two per year or just lots of rain but it's all snow in the mtns), however I don't make but just half a dozen trips per year up there. I'd have been looking at everything in the lower cost bracket from Kumho AT's, to Mastercraft Courser AT's and CT's (made by Cooper but a little less expensive) and several others, but then ran across the old Kelly Wintermark HT "High Void" snow tire. I know that tire has been around a long time and I am just going back to a 235/75x15 hopefully to gain a little better mileage since the best I got with the 30s was 19.5mpg and my old 225/75x15's got 22.5 best all-time for me. Trust me, I'd love to throw some 31's on, but I still like to disconnect the front sometimes if on the rougher stuff and to not like my teeth rattled out and fuel is obviously an ongoing EXPENSIVE expense, hehe. I have recently purchased some snow/tire chains that will fit 235's or 30's so want to stick within that range and 225s are minimally smaller than 235's but dang, they look so tiny and out of place (even if they do get better mileage). My main question is if anyone has ran the Kelly Wintermark before and if it can reasonably be used in the Southeast US throughout the year and still get reasonable tire wear. Seen so many different articles about winter tires and snow tires and various compounds that are softer/more flexible in cold weather and that sounds great in that condition, but I don't want the tires turning to tar when it's 100F outside either. The Wintermarks are 100 bucks less than the cheapest AT tire I can find and they still have a decent side lug. This is my daily driver and I put probably 8-10K mi on my XJ per year as it's rarely driven more than 100 mi at a time and usually sees maybe 100mi a week of mostly city. My Sidewinder AT's have probably 25-30K on them and have been on about 4.5-5 yrs and I may be able to get another 2K on them. My tires don't typically last long on my Jeep (in my opinion, when I hear multiple stories of people getting 100k on a tire that I got 45k out of). My factory Goodyear Wrangler RTS's prob got 25k on them and my Michelin LTX M/S got approx 45k.
Part of me wants to get an aggressive AT like the Cooper ST or the Mastercraft Courser CT, then another part wants to get the cheapest least aggressive AT I can find and automatically chain up when I hit the snow, and another wants to get the Wintermark because it's the cheapest thing around and know I will have good snow traction and a big side lug too that hopefully won't be ripped off.
Would love to see your observations on all tires listed above or anything similar in the similar cost range.
For the record. 99 XJ 4x4 6cyl 4dr sport, 8.25 Chry rear axle w/ No-Slip rear locker, open front diff
Thanks
Rusty
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