In my experience, the Exide Orbital is a POS! I have seen more defective than good. I work at a NAPA, and we sold (past tense) those to a few now unhappy people. Just my opinion. We have some really good deals on the Optima's right now though. Napa just started buying them direct a month or so ago, and now we sell them very competitively. Red top P/N is "N993478RED" and we are selling them for $159 exchange. I can't say whether your local NAPA will have them at that price or not, but if they use NAPA's "West Coast Pricing" they will!