Big Bear - Saturday, August 8

johnnyc · Jul 29, 2009

A couple of the guys and I are gonna be up at Rick's cabin on August 7-9. If anybody wants to go wheeling on that Saturday, let me know.

Since I've been to Big Bear twice in the past couple of weeks, I want to run something different. I was thinking Horsethief Flat and Sidewinder Trail.

I know where Horsethief Flat is, but I can't find an exact location for Sidewinder. Anybody know? This is the only description I've found through searching.

Sidewinder Trail
Sidewinder is a VERY difficult trail in the canyons east of Big Bear. It winds through a sandy canyon bottom, with many difficult rockcrawling obstacles. Minimum vehicle REQUIREMENTS are 35" tires, two lockers, recovery gear and an experienced driver. A winch is recommended.

And here's Horsethief Flat.

Horsethief Flat
This trail begins east of Baldwin Lake off Hwy 18. The trail down into Horsethief Flat is rocky and challenging. And the views are breathtaking. Spend some time exploring Horsethief Flat, where rustlers hid out far from the long arm of the law. Next is the technical climb back up out of Horsethief Flat, which is perhaps the most challenging section of this run. This trail descends to a lower elevation than most of the Big Bear Trails and can be warmer than the surrounding area, so a good cooling system is a must. Minimum vehicle recommendations are 33" tires and at least one locker.

JESSE A · Jul 30, 2009

sounds like some fun trails but ill be at the beach camping maybe next time.

boostamante · Jul 30, 2009

dammit johnny! i was gonna be in gorman but i dunno. seem like i may not be equipped to run sidewinder what with only having 33's.
was also considering running deep creek on sunday and then john Bull afterwards.

whadday think? can my rig do both of those trails you mentioned? you seen me drive and my rig so let me know.

Julio

johnnyc · Jul 30, 2009

I don't know...I haven't run either trail myself.

And I can't seem to find Sidewinder. So it may be a moot point.

Horsethief Flat is rated a "difficult" trail, but it's not more difficult than John Bull or Holcomb Creek.

We may try Rattlesnake Canyon and Tip Top Mountain, but those are both "moderate" trails.

SanDiegoXJ · Jul 30, 2009

damn, if I wasn't such a poor broke bastage I'd love to go....but I still cant afford to get my rear geared the same as my front atm. =(

jeeperjohn · Jul 30, 2009

SanDiegoXJ said:
damn, if I wasn't such a poor broke bastage I'd love to go....but I still cant afford to get my rear geared the same as my front atm. =(

What gears do you have in the front? If you can get the parts we'll work something out on labor cuz I owe you one.

jeeperjohn · Jul 30, 2009

I may be in for this one. I like the sound of sidewinder trail.

National Drivetrain · Jul 30, 2009

I'd be down for it if you guy's decide on Horsetheif Flats. I only have my race jeep and dont want to beat up the glass on Sidewinder.

Eric

boostamante · Jul 30, 2009

National Drivetrain said:
I'd be down for it if you guy's decide on Horsetheif Flats. I only have my race jeep and dont want to beat up the glass on Sidewinder.

Eric

Is sidewinder that tough on our rigs? either two works for me as I have never heard of or ran either one.

SanDiegoXJ · Jul 31, 2009

jeeperjohn said:
What gears do you have in the front? If you can get the parts we'll work something out on labor cuz I owe you one.

got 4.56 in the front and just tossed in a d44 with 3.55 in the rear. Unfortunately, in addition to the budget crunch causing furloughs, I just sunk over a grand into dental work in the last three months. =(

So, while I VERY much appreciate the offer, the rig is gonna just have to be a paperweight for a bit. =)

FordGuy · Jul 31, 2009

National Drivetrain said:
I'd be down for it if you guy's decide on Horsetheif Flats. I only have my race jeep and dont want to beat up the glass on Sidewinder.

Eric

You can be rest assured that I will not damage my Jeep, so you will be safe for sure.

s7tech · Jul 31, 2009

FordGuy said:
You can be rest assured that I will not damage my Jeep, so you will be safe for sure.

Why not? See you there, buddy.

4xSanta · Jul 31, 2009

You should try Motino Wash sometime Johnny......SANTA

danwho · Jul 31, 2009

I'd be there with you, but heading to Pismo for a week.
Have fun!

National Drivetrain · Aug 1, 2009

FordGuy said:
You can be rest assured that I will not damage my Jeep, so you will be safe for sure.

Thanks, but I have to bow out. River trip that weekend!

johnnyc · Aug 2, 2009

Looks like we'll run out to Heartbreak Ridge, Rattlesnake Canyon, Tip Top Mountain, then over to Horsethief Flats.

We'll probably leave about 9 am from Rick's cabin in Sugarloaf.

boostamante · Aug 3, 2009

johnnyc said:
Looks like we'll run out to Heartbreak Ridge, Rattlesnake Canyon, Tip Top Mountain, then over to Horsethief Flats.

We'll probably leave about 9 am from Rick's cabin in Sugarloaf.

IM debating on whether to join you guys or go to Gorman. I cant decide!

johnnyc · Aug 3, 2009

Well, we're just basically going exploring. We really don't know where we're going. I'm trying to set my GPS with some coordinates, so that we don't get totally lost.

You're more than welcome to join us though.

Blazair · Aug 3, 2009

I might join you jonny. might.

boostamante · Aug 3, 2009

Well gorman is only 75 miles from my house as apposed to BB which is over 100 miles...

ill figure it out. Where exactly is ricks cabin and is there room for a little guy like me? i though about tkaing my dog aout with me this time.

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