NAXJA Forums -::- North American XJ Association  

Go Back   NAXJA Forums -::- North American XJ Association > NAXJA Unibody Jeep Technical Forums > Jeep Cherokee XJ (1984 - 2001) > Modified Tech Discussion > Paint and Bodywork forum
HOME Member FAQ Sponsor Info Rules Bylaws E-Mail

Paint and Bodywork forum Around here sheetmetal is optional but if you are going to do it, do it right.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old May 7th, 2006, 17:43
bobby hill's Avatar
bobby hill bobby hill is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: MINNESOTA
Posts: 33
replace doors or replace door skins?

all 4 of my doors have dents or rust. i could replace the door skins. i know how but would it just be easier and cheaper to just go out and find 4 doors and relace them. and im gonna paint my jeep in the next couple of months any way. its a 4 door cheokee duh but if you were wondering
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old May 7th, 2006, 22:19
cassio's Avatar
cassio cassio is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: san antonio, TX
Posts: 307
Re: replace doors or replace door skins?

i guess it just depends on how valuable ur time is...

i would just get new doors...
save time..and the price diference in a junkyard wouldnt be much

cas
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old May 16th, 2006, 00:17
ju$tice720 ju$tice720 is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: texas
Posts: 25
Re: replace doors or replace door skins?

skins are kinda a pain.. you'll want to go with some junk doors the same color if you can...
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old May 17th, 2006, 21:52
XJawgi's Avatar
XJawgi XJawgi is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: cleveland ohio
Posts: 356
Re: replace doors or replace door skins?

im curious to see where you can get skins from...im in the same boat, i have 2 solid doors though, i just dont feel like changing over all the power window stuff.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old May 17th, 2006, 22:28
XJourney's Avatar
XJourney XJourney is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lynden, WA
Posts: 1,265
Re: replace doors or replace door skins?

The ONLY place I am aware of to get new skins is the Dealer. But unless you know how to do it, just get junkyard doors and paint them. Because even if you only do skins you still have to repaint the inside anyway.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old June 1st, 2006, 12:22
Darthrider's Avatar
Darthrider Darthrider is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 11
Re: replace doors or replace door skins?

I got Skins from JC Whitney, took forever to come in, am selling one for a 2 door to another member here, I ended up buying a replacement door because the rust went further than the skin. You will need some good torque bits to get the old doors off, they used lock tight on the bolts at the factory, unless you have a torch to really heat them suckers up, you might have to grind them off and buy replacment bolts from the dealer, at least that has been my experience
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old June 3rd, 2006, 19:20
dizzymac's Avatar
dizzymac dizzymac is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,485
Re: replace doors or replace door skins?

Full door skins, if you can find them will cost you a bundle per door. You are better off looking around junkyards,online forums, etc. and try to find some doors in real good shape,no rust.
You can get a lower 2dr skin from JCW and fulls from rockauto.com (if they still have them)
To do a full skin properly will take you 4-6 hours per door, less time if you have a "skinner", still tedious work.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old October 25th, 2006, 21:42
JeepZJlover's Avatar
JeepZJlover JeepZJlover is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Marion, IA
Posts: 85
Re: replace doors or replace door skins?

Where in the hell are you getting 4-6 hours to do full doorskins. Comon i'm a bodyguy there not that hard to do grind the edges off the old one, put new one on position, glue/weld whatever, hammer and dolly edges. And run seamsealer around. whole process shouldnt take more than 3 hours.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old October 26th, 2006, 10:08
mcnamaag's Avatar
mcnamaag mcnamaag is offline
NAXJA Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Red Lion, PA
Posts: 891
Re: replace doors or replace door skins?

I dont know about you but to do door skins right, more work is required than that. You have to grind the edges of the old door, remove the old skin, clean up the shell, apply seam sealer, line up the new skin, weld if needed being carefull not to warp the new skin, then comes the fun part. You need to SLOWLY and GENTLY fold the door skin lip over the shell. Being carefull not to dent and ding up the new skin. Either way it usualy takes a little filler to repair any dents around the edge. then you are talking about a whole other chunk of time. I dont care how good you are or what you use to do it (hammer/dolly,edge tool,hammer and lead bean bag it all does the same thing) to make it right which is the reason you are doing it anyway it take about 4.5-5.5 hours start to finish. If you do it TAKE YOUR TIME. I have been doing body work for years and I dread doing door skins. Then you still need to prime and paint. A good solid used door would be your best bet.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old October 26th, 2006, 18:06
dizzymac's Avatar
dizzymac dizzymac is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,485
Re: replace doors or replace door skins?

I guess "in the hell" I got this from doing a few XJ "full" door skins. If you can do one in three hours and have it come out so as not to look like it was done as Maaco, then my hats off to you.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old November 7th, 2006, 08:57
1985xjlaredo's Avatar
1985xjlaredo 1985xjlaredo is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 1,795
Re: replace doors or replace door skins?

Do the whole door! I just called my auto panel guy and he says that nobody aftermarket will carry the whole door. I find that hard to believe but maybe so. Good Luck
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old January 7th, 2007, 18:54
Ted Young's Avatar
Ted Young Ted Young is offline
NAXJA Forum User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NJ
Posts: 125
Re: replace doors or replace door skins?

If new doors are comparably priced to new skins, get whole doors.

If you door frames are solid and straight and the new doors are way more expensive than skins - skin them. (Assuming you are doing this yourself and not paying for the labor).

Repairing the door frames is tough if you want them to look good in addition to being strong again. I had to fix some pretty nasty doors frames and skin them on a unit body mustang before they started reproducing the whole door assemblys for that year car.

Watch out for quality on the aftermarket body panels, though.

It may be worth trying to hunt down some nice used doors. You never know what will pop up.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
anyone here ever replace door weather seal? if so where did you buy it? 2000Cherokee Modified Tech Discussion 3 October 27th, 2005 08:03
door skins..... dizzymac Wanted: Private Party Only 3 April 7th, 2005 18:09
93XJ, Need supplier for door skins... TheRasper OEM Tech Discussion 7 September 17th, 2004 16:44
How do i replace my Passenger door lock? 540ismiley OEM Tech Discussion 1 August 16th, 2004 01:24
replace the door?? asatxj OEM Tech Discussion 2 December 8th, 2003 10:38


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 22:00.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
NAXJA and NAXJA logo's Copyright NAXJA. All content/images Copyright NAXJA 1999-2014