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Old October 31st, 2017, 10:45
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Dana 30 truss vs sleeve

Im looking to strengthen my Dana 30 when i re gear. Those that have done either or give me your opinions.

I am leaning towards the inner tube sleeves due to clearance and track bar mount but i think ill have to remove the knuckles to do this?

Do you sleeve the short side also or just the long?

Running 35s now and just doing it for a little insurance. Dont get crazy with the throttle, just slow speed stuff and crawling.
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Old October 31st, 2017, 11:31
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Re: Dana 30 truss vs sleeve

You'll get way more benefits from a good truss, sleeving does nothing to strengthen the housing!
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Old October 31st, 2017, 12:27
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Re: Dana 30 truss vs sleeve

honestly, just do both. more strength all around
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Old October 31st, 2017, 12:40
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Re: Dana 30 truss vs sleeve

the greater advantage comes from trussing.

what clearance issues do you think youll have?
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Old October 31st, 2017, 12:44
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Re: Dana 30 truss vs sleeve

did sleeves when I put in front locker. cheap insurance and I had it apart anyway. did both sides.
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Old October 31st, 2017, 13:06
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Re: Dana 30 truss vs sleeve

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the greater advantage comes from trussing.

what clearance issues do you think youll have?
Oil pan clearance in the center. maybe track bar axle mount

To sleeve the housing makes its more rigid from bending. Which is what I am looking for. The defiantly strengthens the tube. If you are referring to the center section that is not my concern as it is not the weak point. Just the carrier deflection inside is. Weight is also an issue.
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Old October 31st, 2017, 13:22
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Re: Dana 30 truss vs sleeve

Sleeving is a waste of time. The housing just breaks where the sleeve stops. Seen 2 of them break in the same spot.
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Oil pan clearance in the center. maybe track bar axle mount

To sleeve the housing makes its more rigid from bending. Which is what I am looking for. The defiantly strengthens the tube. If you are referring to the center section that is not my concern as it is not the weak point. Just the carrier deflection inside is. Weight is also an issue.
you are taking one (perceived) failure mode and moving it to another point. by making the tube more rigid, you are moving the weak point to the housing, which is already vulnerable... watching people huck jeeps at the dunes, the failures ive seen most often are bent Cs (not the tube itself) and cracked housings. sleeves will not address this. trussing is a better option.

the housing and center section deflect together. they are not independent of one another. reducing housing deflection, reduces carrier deflection, which reduces ring gear deflection, a big cause of ring gear failures. a full carrier replacement (full case locker) and stout diff cover also help combat ring gear deflection.

artec makes a great budget minded truss. having seen it in person, clearance is not an issue. having ran a trussed (larger) axle, clearance is not an issue. and that was with high steer and a raised track bar mount. proper bump stopping goes a long way.
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Old October 31st, 2017, 14:30
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Re: Dana 30 truss vs sleeve

That makes a valid point. I never had the need for neither option before but mvong up in tire size I’d like to get a little strength back in the front. Don’t know what to do if anything on the rear now.

I’ll take a look at the truss. I just setup my bumpstops now for the 35s on 3” lift so I’m set for clearance now.

I checked out the truss. Def have to modify that to work with my track bar axle mount.

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Old October 31st, 2017, 14:43
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Re: Dana 30 truss vs sleeve

i did the 3 step . sleeve, truss, gussets...........
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Old October 31st, 2017, 15:10
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Re: Dana 30 truss vs sleeve

C gussets tire into the truss? Got any pictures?
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Old October 31st, 2017, 16:38
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Re: Dana 30 truss vs sleeve

If you were to make your own, the gussets can be part of the truss!
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Old October 31st, 2017, 17:55
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Re: Dana 30 truss vs sleeve

I’ll have to make my own anyway due to my track bar mount. I’ll just make the c gussets and may as well truss the rear while I’m at it.

Rear axle is bent forward 1/4” on the drivers side. Need to try to bend it back before the truss goes on. Winch and a tree??
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Re: Dana 30 truss vs sleeve

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I’ll have to make my own anyway due to my track bar mount. I’ll just make the c gussets and may as well truss the rear while I’m at it.

Rear axle is bent forward 1/4” on the drivers side. Need to try to bend it back before the truss goes on. Winch and a tree??
Doubt that would work....if you pull it with the winch, the suspension will just let the whole thing move....need to get it out of the vehicle and on a press or alignment table/plate to straighten it....somehow you need to keep the straight part from moving while you bend the bent part back in line.
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Old October 31st, 2017, 21:33
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Doubt that would work....if you pull it with the winch, the suspension will just let the whole thing move....need to get it out of the vehicle and on a press or alignment table/plate to straighten it....somehow you need to keep the straight part from moving while you bend the bent part back in line.
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