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Old January 2nd, 2012, 18:04
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Re: decent inexpensive OBD code reader

Has any one bought any software upgrades, or found any new free software that has more enabled features???
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Old January 3rd, 2012, 07:34
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Re: decent inexpensive OBD code reader

I know most of you guys like the one from ebay but I have the Matco MD1032. Nice easy little scan tool for checking powertrain codes. You can also watch live data and comand some of the evap stuff on with it. Only $163 off line but if you have a dealer around your area they frequently go on sale
http://www.matcotools.com/catalog/pr...1032/QIKSCAN+/

If you want something that will check abs and sir codes they offer the MD1052 but it is $430
http://www.matcotools.com/catalog/pr...ANADVISOR+ABS/
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Old January 11th, 2012, 12:12
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Re: decent inexpensive OBD code reader

Question on using a OBDII reader to see what's going on with the car... I know that Torque shows mpg and fuel related stuff.

My gas needle seems to be a little wonky... below half a tank the needle will sometimes go down 1/4 of a tank and hang out there for awhile, and eventually go back up where it's supposed to be. Guessing my sensor in the gas tank is bad?

So... with the reader being used via laptop or Android phone, will I get the "real" MPG readings or will it still be wonky due to the sensor? And same goes for adding an OHC with the fuel mileage stuff as well.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 20:46
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Re: decent inexpensive OBD code reader

has anyone had any problems with connecting the USB versions to laptops running XP Pro?
my dad was trying to use it the other day and it said it was looking for the correct com port?
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Old February 28th, 2012, 16:35
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Re: decent inexpensive OBD code reader

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Question on using a OBDII reader to see what's going on with the car... I know that Torque shows mpg and fuel related stuff.

My gas needle seems to be a little wonky... below half a tank the needle will sometimes go down 1/4 of a tank and hang out there for awhile, and eventually go back up where it's supposed to be. Guessing my sensor in the gas tank is bad?

So... with the reader being used via laptop or Android phone, will I get the "real" MPG readings or will it still be wonky due to the sensor? And same goes for adding an OHC with the fuel mileage stuff as well.
I believe that the gauge sender is different than what the ECU reads. And the OBD adapter/device reads from that, and not the float/sensor. So It should be accurate. Every Heep I have owned has had a fluctuating needle, some better than others.
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has anyone had any problems with connecting the USB versions to laptops running XP Pro?
my dad was trying to use it the other day and it said it was looking for the correct com port?
I currently do not have a USB obd connector, but the few I have had had no issues, other than operator error. Have you tried re-installing the program, checking connections, plug/unplug the device? I've even used a POS Win98 lappy just fine.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 09:50
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Re: decent inexpensive OBD code reader

i havent looked into it myself just what my dad tells me. i am going to look at it today. he may have been doing something wrong with it.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 10:21
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Re: decent inexpensive OBD code reader

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Question on using a OBDII reader to see what's going on with the car... I know that Torque shows mpg and fuel related stuff.

My gas needle seems to be a little wonky... below half a tank the needle will sometimes go down 1/4 of a tank and hang out there for awhile, and eventually go back up where it's supposed to be. Guessing my sensor in the gas tank is bad?

So... with the reader being used via laptop or Android phone, will I get the "real" MPG readings or will it still be wonky due to the sensor? And same goes for adding an OHC with the fuel mileage stuff as well.
The gas tank volume gauge sensor system is not read by the ECU/PCM, it is not used for MPG number crunching because it is not at all accurate. It does not have the precision needed. The ECU/PCM would estimate MPGs based on fuel pressure (which is probably assumed based on the design specs), and the injector open time which is under the ECU/PCM control. But it all assumes the fuel pressure is normal and assumes the injectors are not leaking or sticking, or partly stopped up with crud.
So the ECU/PCM does not read anything that would report MPGs, it just estimates fuel flow based its outputs to the fuel injectors and used an expect OEM spec fuel pressure to calculate an estimated MPG.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 18:32
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Re: decent inexpensive OBD code reader

well if anyone can share some info on installing the drivers for the USB version of this device it would be great.
(ELM327)
i cant get it to work on an XP Pro system or vista.
i plugged it into the vista machine it searched for drivers said it found and installed them but then it would not work with any of the programs of the vehicle.
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Old March 3rd, 2012, 19:43
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Re: decent inexpensive OBD code reader

Have you tried assigning the COM port manually?

Here are my old email notes from the guy I bought mine from:

Also note that in the device manage in xp it does not indicate the com port number. In my case it was try and try and try until I found it at com 4.
It then recognized it and came to life."

http://www.wgsoft.de/de/downloadarea...-software.html
lastest scanmaster-elm 2.1 support all windows.

http://www.easyobdii.com/download.ph...&a k=7os4pyH4

http://www.myscantool.com/download/ProScanQSG-Serial.pdf
http://www.myscantool.com/download/ProScanQSG-BT.pdf
http://www.talktomycar.co.uk/downloads/BlueTooth327.rar
for Elm327
install manual:
http://www.cellphoneconnector.com/pdf/OBD2 Setup Instructions.doc
USB driver:
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/CDM/CDM20802 WHQL Certified.zip
Software
http://www.easyobdii.com free 2.3 ver
http://www.talktomycar.co.uk/downloa...MO_1.7.0.0.zip
http://www.talktomycar.co.uk/downloa..._net113win.exe
Other software:
http://www.talktomycar.co.uk/drivers.htm
Note : interface need power from car.(Key to on, Not Start)
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Re: decent inexpensive OBD code reader

thanks for the tips mike, i will try those things when i can
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Old June 2nd, 2012, 09:10
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See Autel.$21 bucks.Does the basic job.Amazon.
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Re: decent inexpensive OBD code reader

If anyone is still looking, Direct from Guangdong china 12$ free shipping
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?...tId=0&manual=y
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Old June 6th, 2012, 23:00
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Re: decent inexpensive OBD code reader

I am looking for a good software upgrade for them ( I already have one) , I need a software package for them that can show each cylinder firing data, but have found non as yet?

The one I have will show stuff like Cyl #1 timing advance, but only Cyl #1, the O2 reading but not by cylinder, etc. I know the data is there, and available, but the software I have tried so far is just not very good, beyond minor gross data.
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