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Old November 22nd, 2010, 19:43
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Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

So here is the plan... Maybe. This is my second XJ build, the first ran a 6.5 inch RC lift. I liked the stability, and offroad performance of it, the road manners were way too rough though for me. So this go round I want to run the same lift but with a better ride. I use the jeep to explore, tow a tent trailer, do moderately tough trails in Moab, and dive to work. I like things to just work with the most reliability. So in all your opinions out there, which one do I run? The 6.5 long arm or the short arm with the drop brackets. I do like the price of the latter option since I just found out I have to do a heater core!! Doh!!!!
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 20:11
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Re: Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

I don't see how anyone can claim 5.5" to 6.5" lift with large tires as a reliable and stable daily driver... the brakes being the XJ's achilles heel. I would plan a full build, starting with the brakes.
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 20:30
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Re: Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

I run 4.5" and 33x10.5s on drop brackets as my DD and love it. I had longarms on my last Jeep but decided not to run them on this one because I wanted better angles on the control arms. You can get the arms level with drop brackets if you keep the lift around 4.5-5", but not with longarms...
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Old November 22nd, 2010, 21:01
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Re: Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

I run 4.5-5" and 35s as a DD on Rough Country Long Arms and love it.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 07:06
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Re: Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

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I run 4.5-5" and 35s as a DD on Rough Country Long Arms and love it.
durability?
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 07:21
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durability?
my buddy's RC long arms blew the upper control arm hard joints in a few months... not DD'd, on 35s.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 07:27
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Re: Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

BDS LA.....Never look back.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 07:38
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Re: Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

Given the simple choice of long arms vs. short arms, it's longarm all the way.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 07:44
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Re: Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

I like my short arms with 4.5" of lift. Definitely a ride improvement. Never had long arms, but I get plenty of flex out of the short arms with drop brackets. Just need to get the rear to flex better.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 07:50
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Re: Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

A 4" lift with drop brackets is going to ride as close to stock as a 4" lift ever can. Past 4", though, the control arms start building angle - and by 6" I really don't know if DBs or LAs would have better angles, it depends on where the LAs are mounted.
It sounds like you'd be fine with drop brackets and a 4" lift, consider using rubber or poly bushings in your control arms too - it will smooth out the road manners some.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 11:36
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Re: Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

Check out EricsXJ's build. He gained 2-3 inches of clearance installing TnT radius arms over his drop bracket setup.

I had 4.5-5" lift with drop brackets and the ride quality was pretty rough. They would flex like crazy though. Problem was the tire was pulled really far back in the wheel well and didn't look very good, plus it would hit the back of the fender.

I have a Poly Performance 3-link now and the ride is 10x better and flex is just as good. On 35's, I hardly ever hit the brackets and the arms just act like sliders. 2"x1/4" wall tubing isn't going to bend or dent anytime soon I don't think. The axle is actually pushed forward now and looks a lot better.
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Old November 25th, 2010, 20:37
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Re: Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

Oh wow, I had a feeling this was going to be one of those topics that could go either way. Thanks for the feedback!! I will post pics of the final choice.
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Old November 25th, 2010, 21:10
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Re: Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

Sunbird, after reading your post you made me want long arms. I also have the issue of the axle being too far back. The plan was to put in a longer, non-adjustable arm for the bottom. The brackets have a lot of fore and aft adjustment for the bottom arm already, so that's basically covered. Then have adjustable uppers to keep caster in check.

Only advantage I see to keeping the drop brackets, is that they may save a little on weight compared to the long arms. Even then, if you have the long arms connected to skids and frame strengtheners (and if these are things you want to have anyways), there wont be much difference. Just what the extra length of tube weighs, which can't be all that much.
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Old November 26th, 2010, 05:52
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Re: Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

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durability?
no issues with mine (tho I have the newer version )
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Old November 26th, 2010, 06:29
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Re: Long Arm or Drop Bracket????

I like my drop brackets, 5.5" lift, wheel it hard and she cruises awesome!
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