Unclewally
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I was saving up the cash to purchase one of these for next season. Seams that it is no longer available. What's up with that?
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Brian
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Brian
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TeraFlex 231J 4:1 Low T-Case
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VAhasnoWAVES
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- Lake City, Mi
they pop up on pirate from time to time.
you are better off finding a rubicon case anyway. the teraflex 4:1 has issue with oiling when on the throttle in low range.
you are better off finding a rubicon case anyway. the teraflex 4:1 has issue with oiling when on the throttle in low range.
RCP Phx
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- Phoenix,Az
Tell that to my 16yr old Tera-flex! I did buy a 241 for my 95 and it's definitely quieter and stronger!
Unclewally
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- Saint Augusta, MN
I have an AX15. To the best of my knowledge a 241OR can't be adapted to the AX15. Hence, the 231J 4:1 Low.....
Brian
Brian
VAhasnoWAVES
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- Lake City, Mi
i dont have to.... teraflex does right in their description.
https://teraflex.com/shop_items/528ffa7fead962f416e72e96
its a 6 bolt round pattern. itll bolt up. you may want to clock it differnetly. but itll bolt up.
RCP Phx
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- Phoenix,Az
Your reading your thoughts into it, cause it doesn't say that! The 214 runs the same risk!
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- Salem, OR
RCP Phx
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- Phoenix,Az
It does say it
Where does it say "oiling problem"? I've had both my 4:1's over 3500rpm many of times!
VAhasnoWAVES
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- Lake City, Mi
no i'm not, yes it does, and no it doesnt.
does the case work, and work well for a lot of people? yes. are there limitations? yes. im just telling you what teraflex themselves has explicitely said and what ive personally seen.
check the instructions, or call them even. they have said in the past and they will tell you they do not recommend using the case in low range under heavy throttle... situations you would likely see in sand, snow, and mud. do they tell you exactly why? no, they dont want to scare people off of their own product. "oil starvation issue!? wait, what!?" they just put a "voids warranty if..." clause on it and leave it at that. but it is a know oil starvation issue that can/will damage the planetaries. the 241or does not suffer from the same issue, despite the gear set being the same ratio.
Unclewally
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- Saint Augusta, MN
I could have swore the output on the AX15 was 21 spline. Apparently I was wrong....
Thanks!
Thanks!
RCP Phx
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- Phoenix,Az
How can the 241 be immune to the same rpm's?
Unclewally
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- Saint Augusta, MN
Couldn't tell ya...
Next question - is there a way to get a mechanical speedo output for a 241OR?
Thanks,
Brian
Next question - is there a way to get a mechanical speedo output for a 241OR?
Thanks,
Brian
trippled
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Really, it's speed related. 2500 in 1st is slower than 2500 in 3rd gear. Engine spped is not the same as output shaft speed (unless you're in 3rd)
RCP Phx
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- Phoenix,Az
Bingo!! You would be going pretty fast in 3rd or 4th for that to happen, which also means "not much load". Drag racing planetaries see some "high" speeds and under much more torque!
VAhasnoWAVES
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- Lake City, Mi
241OR from a TJ/LJ will have the provision on the tail cone.
different oiling design...
you mean like in sand, mud, or snow?
i think your reading too much into it now. i never said it was a RPM thing. i said it was a throttle thing, which may be vague. if we want to be concise, it is an input RPM thing, yes. and id agree that you are probably safe banging the rev limiter in in first gear while in low range.
but the issue isnt a load issue, it isnt a torque issue, it isnt the gears themselves. its too much spinning, not enough oil. the issue gets multiplied in something like a hill/dune climb (that is where i have personally seen them fail) where all the oil gets slung to the back of the case.
Unclewally
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- Saint Augusta, MN
Got it all figured out now. Thanks for the help!
Brian
Brian
RCP Phx
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- Phoenix,Az
The 241 doesn't use a speedo gear, it has a hall effect sensor!
VAhasnoWAVES
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- Lake City, Mi
TJ 241OR speedo will work on at least a '95 XJ. Just need to adapt the wiring, or buy the little plug converter.
David Bricker / SYR
David Bricker / SYR
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- Colorado Springs, CO
I've had a 241J, in my 90 for 15 years, installed with a 95 AX-15. It's tight, and the linkage needs to be fiddled with, I had to put in an electronic speedo, and twist the arm of a dealer tech to order me the connector for the sensor, but it's there and it works.
