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Old September 28th, 2017, 11:15
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Long Arm Upgrade - Opinions?

Looking at upgrading to a long arm set up for the front of my 95. Have found bolt-on (no welding) options from Rusty's and Iron Rock. Was wondering if anyone has experience with those (or any others) and what your thoughts are. This is a trail only rig that gets wheeled maybe 4 times a year, so I'm not looking to go crazy.
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Old September 28th, 2017, 11:51
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Re: Long Arm Upgrade - Opinions?

I see you found the cheap ones. TnT, BDS, Full Traction, CavFab, Clayton to name a few. Neither Rusty's nor IRO are typically the preferred options.
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Old September 28th, 2017, 12:17
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Old September 28th, 2017, 12:30
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I'm running core 4x4 long arm non high clearance kit. It was all bolt on. It use a nice rubber bushing on the long arms. Urathane on the upper short arms. I did have to modify my exhaust going over the crossmember but my is a 2000 with California emissions. The only thing I don't like about the system is the adjuster lock nuts on the long arms the nuts will come loose with hard use or flexing. Then you have an annoying rattle.


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Old September 28th, 2017, 12:53
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Re: Long Arm Upgrade - Opinions?

If i had to do it, i would go with the Clayton's kit. One thing i suggest is to make sure the center crossmember is removable just in case you need to service the trans or transfer case.
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Old September 28th, 2017, 13:16
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The Clayton kit requires welding IIRC. Was trying to avoid welding. I'll check out some of the other manufacturers.
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Old September 28th, 2017, 13:47
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I have an IRO long arm on my 97. The kit is fine, flexes like crazy, and is very well built. A lot of people don't like the caster adjustment setup, but I haven't had any problems with it. It's a good kit for the money, and IRO is a good company to deal with. I did weld on the outer brackets to my frame stiffiners, I didn't trust just the 6 bolts to hold everything on. I've bought a lot of parts from them over the years.

On my 95, I used the TNT long arm kit. Very well built. That is a good set up and I would recommend that kit for anyone. Really beefy.

I am currently amassing parts for my 99 2 door build. I'm going to try a 3 link kit on that one. Leaning towards Clayton, but I'm looking at a couple of others.

Welding is not that big of a deal, don't let that be a deal breaker. A shop or someone you know with welding skills can burn it in in no time. Just takes a little bit of prep.

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Old September 28th, 2017, 14:32
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Re: Long Arm Upgrade - Opinions?

Full Traction is pretty much bolt-on (need to cut off the stock LCA buckets but no welding)

Synergy has some mid-arm buckets that bolt onto the frame, still my favorite
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Looking at upgrading to a long arm set up for the front of my 95. Have found bolt-on (no welding) options from Rusty's and Iron Rock. Was wondering if anyone has experience with those (or any others) and what your thoughts are. This is a trail only rig that gets wheeled maybe 4 times a year, so I'm not looking to go crazy.
How much lift do you want ?

If you don't wheel any more than that, I'd go drop brackets and be done with it.

I put them on mine as a precursor to long arms, but now, not so sure long arms are gonna be worth it if I stay @ 6" or less lift.
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How much lift do you want ?



If you don't wheel any more than that, I'd go drop brackets and be done with it.



I put them on mine as a precursor to long arms, but now, not so sure long arms are gonna be worth it if I stay @ 6" or less lift.


Am running drop brackets already and hate them. They get caught on everything... but my lift has sagged somewhat as well.


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The Clayton kit requires welding IIRC. Was trying to avoid welding. I'll check out some of the other manufacturers.
its less than 20" of weld. bribe a buddy with a 6 pack and have him burn it on.
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The best "bang for your buck" in my mind would be the TNT kit!
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Old September 29th, 2017, 08:43
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You couldn't pay me to put Rusty's anything on my truck. I've seen his welds fail in street use- once on a friend's XJ while backing out of the driveway.

Clayton are what I run, and what I'll likely run on the wife's ZJ here soon.
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Old September 29th, 2017, 08:45
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I'm running core 4x4 long arm non high clearance kit. It was all bolt on. It use a nice rubber bushing on the long arms. Urathane on the upper short arms. I did have to modify my exhaust going over the crossmember but my is a 2000 with California emissions. The only thing I don't like about the system is the adjuster lock nuts on the long arms the nuts will come loose with hard use or flexing. Then you have an annoying rattle.


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Can confirm that Core4X4 are nice products as well. They're in the running for the wife's ZJ. I presently have a full set of their adjustable length arms on the ZJ and I'm very pleased.
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-90 XJ 4.0, AW4, 231J: Clayton's longarms, RE 5.5" coils, hybrid 6" leaf pack, 33/12.50/15" MTs, Rancho 99012s and 99624s, Tera HD SYE, custom sliders, BW flares. Rehabbing with D44s, RE spring packs, RE 4.5" coils, and ACOS.
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Old September 29th, 2017, 08:46
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its less than 20" of weld. bribe a buddy with a 6 pack and have him burn it on.
Regarding the Clayton's kit. Yes, this... but make sure your buddy is a good weldor. Certification isn't required, but more than just posession of a welder is.
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-94 ZJ: Budget boost, 31s. The wife's DD.
-97 XJ: Son's DD. 4" lift, ACOS, 4" spring pack, Upcountry coils, 31s
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