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Old July 9th, 2017, 11:57
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

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Contact Ryan Hogan too. he did all of my tuning. Great Guy and really dialed in the stroker.
I figured Chris is closer in case I have to take it there. But I am aware of FRP!
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Old July 9th, 2017, 12:44
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Is this Chris?
Yes, this is Chris.
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Old July 12th, 2017, 12:47
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

I got a call from Chris Monday afternoon to go over some fine points, I told him of my current plans. Well I received my new injectors today! They are sold as 27@49 psi. The only marking is XF1E-A5B that translates to (0 280 155 849). They are engraved with "27" which I assume is the tested flow rate @ 49psi. I will try to get them in tonight with results soon after.
I should add that they are going to replace some 0 280 156 077 injectors I bought last fall that are supposed to be 24@49.

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Old July 14th, 2017, 14:08
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

I finally got the injectors installed this morning after a bit of a oil leak! I installed a PSC ps pump last Saturday that had a major leaking front seal, had to put the stocker back on. Currently the injectors seem to be what I needed, the trims are +/- 5% now and it eliminated a stumble/dead spot I was getting from a dead stop to WOT. I will spend the rest of the weekend getting some AFR runs logged to see where I'm really at!
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Old July 14th, 2017, 16:50
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

I'm interested to see how the tuning works out. I currently have a stroker kit order with Russ.
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Old July 16th, 2017, 19:31
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

Ok, here's what I found out this weekend! Remember I'm using old equipment, a Innova 1303 and a Innovate LM-1. My set-up will only log a max of 44min at a time, so I broke it down a little. I wished I knew of a way to post the time/bar graphs I got(there in LogWorks 3.0), I might try to take pics later!

I decided on 4 criteria........for 4 separate runs each

1- Cold start to full warm-up
2- Neighborhood driving - max 45mph
3- 0-60mph WOT
4- 0-60 Freeway cruising

Basically the numbers show excellent in all the graphs with the most consistent value at 14.5 and with high and lows(within seconds) of 15.1-13.2.
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Old July 20th, 2017, 10:02
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

I received a e-mail Monday from Chris asking for me to send some of my files to him, which I did. Just received a response stating it didn't look bad but would need more info to truly see what's happening. That's where the question lies.

It would take a major investment to be able to export the current logs, spend time/money on custom files, and be able to import those files to my PCM.

So while I kick around that idea, I'm still trying to find things on my own that might need addressed.

One thing I wasn't impressed with during the build was the Cam position sensor. I found no other method than the "toothpick" trick but question the accuracy of that. What does the CPS do within the PCM and how do I tell if it's truly adjusted to where it needs to be?
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Old July 20th, 2017, 10:05
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

cam position sensor sets the timing on when the injectors fire. when its out, its a full cam tooth out, and it will either run crappy at the top of the tach or at idle.

if its running smooth, you're dialed in there.
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

The cam position sensor has a wide margin of error on install.
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Old July 22nd, 2017, 12:59
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

I know that it is indexed properly with the gears, but the "toothpick" method still allows a "little" room for error as it is not a "positive" engagement. That's why I was questioning how the PCM sees and "syncs" the crank and cam positioner, and since my cam has a built in 3* of advance. How much room for error is there?
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Old July 26th, 2017, 09:23
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

To go beyond what I can do, I made a appointment(3 weeks out) with one of Phoenix's best shops to put it on the Dyno/computer(CMR based). After that evaluation I can see what else it needs(if anything) to get done! I'm not comfortable investing in everything it would take to get this done with me as a "middle" man. The other choice is to take it over to Chris(still quite a investment).
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Old July 26th, 2017, 10:59
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

For your logs, is there a way for you to export/save/convert to PDF? Otherwise a 'screenshot' and a quick save should let you upload it.
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Old July 27th, 2017, 17:27
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

All my logs were saved and exportable, but they are only readable thru Innova's Logworks 3.0!

On a bright note, yesterday I managed to score some Rubi rims at a deal(been looking for a couple of years)! I needed new tires so that was done today. It's so smooth now I'm looking forward to the Dyno runs!
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Old August 11th, 2017, 11:45
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

Well, today was the big day and it came off perfectly! The guys at Lopers said they hadn't seen such a strong motor!

Max rear wheel horsepower = 227hp
Max rear wheel torque = 396 ft/lbs

AFR's were great with just a slight fattening under 50% dyno load and WOT.

I think I'm done now!
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Old August 11th, 2017, 12:02
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Re: 4.6 build starts today!!!

You're killing me smalls!!! Why did you have to do that? 225 hp/400 ft-lb at mid 9s CR?!?! I need new underwear. Been waiting to see a 0331 based build with dyno numbers and now we know. I think this will start a few conversations...

Question, Chris and Russ, any chance of a "package"? This build sheet, these injectors, this tune, done! Drooling...
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