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Old July 18th, 2017, 12:12
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Re: New guy build-The Family Truckster

Yes, I used a non contact IR temp gun.

As far as the double shear:

There are plenty of people running the WJ knuckle swap with rod ends in single shear. Even the Petty Cash KOH racer runs WJ knuckles with single shear rod ends. That car gets used harder than my Jeep ever will. As far as I know, they have never broken a knuckle at the steering. Even when the knuckle was broken in half with an impact with another car, the steering survived.

The adding of the double shear will only strengthen what's already there. The addition of the plating will greatly reduce the stress on the knuckle by not allowing the bolt to flex at all. In my view, this will prevent the big 3/4" bolt from turning the hole in the knuckle into an oval. I have no doubt that if I break the knuckle, something very dramatic happened and lots more will be broken too.

I enjoy this type of idea sharing and feedback on my work. One can never stop learning and having an open mind leads to learning.
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Old July 18th, 2017, 12:39
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Re: New guy build-The Family Truckster

Completely agree with your thoughts on the matter.

I am curious why you didn't go with TREs? Hiems simply don't last as long as TREs from what I've heard. I haven't run them, myself.
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Old July 18th, 2017, 14:12
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Re: New guy build-The Family Truckster

I chose rod ends for a few reasons. I don't have the correct reamer for the TREs. This a go fast kind of toy and I wanted strength over longevity. This Jeep will see lots of desert racing as a chase/support/spectator vehicle. Should I break a steering joint, it will be way easier to find a rod end than a specific TRE.
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Old July 18th, 2017, 14:32
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Re: New guy build-The Family Truckster

Ah, built to purpose. I like it! It's also a lot easaier to carry one or two spares than 6.
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-90 XJ 4.0, AW4, 231J: Clayton's longarms, RE 5.5" coils, hybrid 6" leaf pack, 33/12.50/15" MTs, Rancho 99012s and 99624s, Tera HD SYE, custom sliders, BW flares. Next: finish front, build rear bumpers, Dana 44's front and rear.
-94 ZJ: Budget boost, 31's. The wife's mall crawler. She's gotten inchitis over my S10 though...
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Old July 29th, 2017, 15:05
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Re: New guy build-The Family Truckster

Making more progress on the front end. WJ knuckles all finished, lower links, tie rod, and drag link and cut to length and tacked up. I used PVC pipe to determine the angle of the upper links. Then I cut my tubing on the bandsaw, and used my homemade fixture table to hold it in place.

Next garage session I will tack together the upper arms and make the panhard bar and cycle it. Then I'm sure I will have to change something. There is so much going on with this "5 link" suspension.

As always, everyones input/criticism is welcomed.
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Old July 29th, 2017, 15:06
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Old July 30th, 2017, 09:27
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Re: New guy build-The Family Truckster

I'm liking the mini layout table. Where did you get the idea?
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-90 XJ 4.0, AW4, 231J: Clayton's longarms, RE 5.5" coils, hybrid 6" leaf pack, 33/12.50/15" MTs, Rancho 99012s and 99624s, Tera HD SYE, custom sliders, BW flares. Next: finish front, build rear bumpers, Dana 44's front and rear.
-94 ZJ: Budget boost, 31's. The wife's mall crawler. She's gotten inchitis over my S10 though...
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Old July 30th, 2017, 15:19
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I'm liking the mini layout table. Where did you get the idea?
I really wanted one of the tab and slot tables, but the top is pretty thin and the fully perforated surface makes for a pretty lousy general work bench. My garage is a do all kind of place and I have a pretty big/study work table with a stainless top and big cast iron legs.

I built the fixture table as a compromise. It's big enough to clamp 99% of what I build but small enough that I can stash it away. It's all 3/8" cold rolled steel TIG welded together, so its stout. I love it, makes getting parts just in the right position before welding and actually holding them there.
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Old August 11th, 2017, 15:22
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Re: New guy build-The Family Truckster

Mocking up the WJ brakes and new unit bearings. This is at full bump with a 35" tall tire.



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Old August 12th, 2017, 23:24
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Getting the front end one step closer. Setting up the lower spring mounts, bumpstops and track bar/track bar mounts. It's getting there slowly.


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Old August 13th, 2017, 15:21
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Re: New guy build-The Family Truckster

Great fab and layout work!
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Old August 13th, 2017, 19:31
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Great fab and layout work!
Thanks!

Had the apprentice in the shop today.

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Old August 14th, 2017, 06:24
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Re: New guy build-The Family Truckster

Coming along great- and you win at Dadding.

Are those the Ruffstuff framerail reinforcements? I'm looking at installing them on my son's 97, even though it won't see any hardcore wheeling anytime soon. It's strictly providing a surface to build off of, and to prevent damage to the unibody from twisting. I'll also be curing the body rot issue by cutting out the rockers and welding in some 2X6 tubing, which will be tied into the framerail boxes as well.
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-90 XJ 4.0, AW4, 231J: Clayton's longarms, RE 5.5" coils, hybrid 6" leaf pack, 33/12.50/15" MTs, Rancho 99012s and 99624s, Tera HD SYE, custom sliders, BW flares. Next: finish front, build rear bumpers, Dana 44's front and rear.
-94 ZJ: Budget boost, 31's. The wife's mall crawler. She's gotten inchitis over my S10 though...
-97 XJ: Son's DD. Mild mods for the new driver.
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Old August 14th, 2017, 13:02
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Coming along great- and you win at Dadding.

Are those the Ruffstuff framerail reinforcements? I'm looking at installing them on my son's 97, even though it won't see any hardcore wheeling anytime soon. It's strictly providing a surface to build off of, and to prevent damage to the unibody from twisting. I'll also be curing the body rot issue by cutting out the rockers and welding in some 2X6 tubing, which will be tied into the framerail boxes as well.
Yes, I used the Ruff Stuff reinforcement plates/panels. Great product and fits the frame great. If you do the front and main frame together, you will have to do fitting/cutting to make them work together.

Welding on the dirty nasty galvanized XJ frame rail is terrible. I cleaned to bare metal and sanded to a smooth finish. I still got porosity in some of the beads. I'll grind them out and redo, but I'm looking forward to never welding on galvanized metal again.

Your plan sounds great. The 2x6 is a perfect fit. I considered doing a replacement rocker like that, but mine won't see a ton of rocks.
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