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Old December 31st, 2012, 17:25
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Tail-lamps

Now seems like a good opportunity to get educated... Below is the parts list for my XJ... I interpret all the tail-lamp choices will fit. The NOS I have is item #14. Thoughts?


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Old December 31st, 2012, 17:44
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Re: BUILD: My 1987 "Wagoneer" XJ Limited

Number 14 says "MJ" under body, at the bottom of that page it says "MJ = Comanche Pickup". You have a comanche tail light housing. It doesn't fit your XJ body... try it, it appears you have the rig all apart already anyway, but you'll find that you can't match the screw holes up, and the body countour is different where they bolt up anyway. Sell it here or on Comanche Club, it's a NOS passenger side comanche tail light housing with chrome trim, they are hard to find and someone will pay you more money for it than it will cost you to find another NOS wagoneer tail light housing most likely.

You need a number 1 on that diagram, 8350 4116 "Wagoneer, Red"

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Old December 31st, 2012, 17:50
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Re: BUILD: My 1987 "Wagoneer" XJ Limited

What I'm curious about is what the difference is between the standard XJ tail lamps and the ones that say "ECE" behind them... from a quick google search it appears ECE stands for Economic Commission of Europe, so I assume they are european models... maybe with different reflector or color configuration....
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Old December 31st, 2012, 18:54
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Re: BUILD: My 1987 "Wagoneer" XJ Limited

There is a European version which may also be an option... I do wish it had chrome-trim:

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Re: BUILD: My 1987 "Wagoneer" XJ Limited

The XJ is still at the paint-shop... And I'm still shopping!

An unbelievable find of a NOS "Overlay"! It's the chrome piece above the rear license-plate. He also had the other Cherokee chrome tail-lamp... Although I can't use them... At least I'll have a NOS pair!

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Old January 15th, 2013, 08:35
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Re: BUILD: My 1987 "Wagoneer" XJ Limited

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The XJ is still at the paint-shop... And I'm still shopping!

An unbelievable find of a NOS "Overlay"! It's the chrome piece above the rear license-plate. He also had the other Cherokee chrome tail-lamp... Although I can't use them... At least I'll have a NOS pair!
Again, that is a Comanche tail lamp lense, NOT a Cherokee or Wagoneer.
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Again, that is a Comanche tail lamp lense, NOT a Cherokee or Wagoneer.
Maybe you missed my "although I can't use them"... Then since I have an XJ... I still get the "other" models confused!
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Old January 15th, 2013, 10:01
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Re: BUILD: My 1987 "Wagoneer" XJ Limited

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The XJ is still at the paint-shop... And I'm still shopping!

An unbelievable find of a NOS "Overlay"! It's the chrome piece above the rear license-plate. He also had the other Comanche chrome tail-lamp... Although I can't use them... At least I'll have a NOS pair!

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Re: BUILD: My 1987 "Wagoneer" XJ Limited

From what I've read, the Euro models have a fourth circuit and bulb socket for the tail lights for 'fog lights'. Even the stock XJ US market tail light housings have the fourth hole, but no bulb socket. I believe it lights up if you turn on your front fogs. They are as bright as the stop lights. One car that comes to mind is the earlier Lexus IS series. There's two extra tail lights on the trunk lid, that when illuminated, are brighter than the running lights, about as bright as stop lights. I guess they're legal here, as a few other Asian cars seem to be sporting them, too. Lately it's been warm, and foggy, and it'd be nice if more vehicles had them.
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Re: BUILD: My 1987 "Wagoneer" XJ Limited

I have seen similar while in Europe. Below-left is my old OEM... Below-right is a new Import. I won't know about the wiring until I get my XJ back. So for now... FYI:



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From what I've read, the Euro models have a fourth circuit and bulb socket for the tail lights for 'fog lights'. Even the stock XJ US market tail light housings have the fourth hole, but no bulb socket. I believe it lights up if you turn on your front fogs. They are as bright as the stop lights. One car that comes to mind is the earlier Lexus IS series. There's two extra tail lights on the trunk lid, that when illuminated, are brighter than the running lights, about as bright as stop lights. I guess they're legal here, as a few other Asian cars seem to be sporting them, too. Lately it's been warm, and foggy, and it'd be nice if more vehicles had them.
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Re: BUILD: My 1987 "Wagoneer" XJ Limited

I've seen the chrome overlay license plate 'eyebrow' in the junkyard a few times, always on older Waggys, and they said Wagoneer, not Jeep. That is a cool find! Toward the end of the run, the only time I saw the chrome strip would be on a Limited, and then not always. It's amusing to see the way XJs were optioned through the years. My son's '95 former police Jeep was a fully loaded Sport, power doors and all, but without a center console. My '96 Country has crank windows !

In your picture, on the older one on the left, my guess is that the Euro foglight would be the second hole from the top. It would be interesting to find out if the wiring for the fogs is in fact in the harness, just without a bulb socket on it. My '96, which didn't come with factory fogs on the front bumper had the switch wires at the place where the switch would have been. I swapped for a bezel with the switch, and it plugged right in. I added the front header harness and relays from a donor with factory fogs, and now I have 'em too.
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Re: BUILD: My 1987 "Wagoneer" XJ Limited

I could use those mj taillights
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Re: BUILD: My 1987 "Wagoneer" XJ Limited

Now I'm even more excited about checking mine out!

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I've seen the chrome overlay license plate 'eyebrow' in the junkyard a few times, always on older Waggys, and they said Wagoneer, not Jeep. That is a cool find! Toward the end of the run, the only time I saw the chrome strip would be on a Limited, and then not always. It's amusing to see the way XJs were optioned through the years. My son's '95 former police Jeep was a fully loaded Sport, power doors and all, but without a center console. My '96 Country has crank windows !

In your picture, on the older one on the left, my guess is that the Euro foglight would be the second hole from the top. It would be interesting to find out if the wiring for the fogs is in fact in the harness, just without a bulb socket on it. My '96, which didn't come with factory fogs on the front bumper had the switch wires at the place where the switch would have been. I swapped for a bezel with the switch, and it plugged right in. I added the front header harness and relays from a donor with factory fogs, and now I have 'em too.
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Re: BUILD: My 1987 "Wagoneer" XJ Limited

Eight minutes on eBay NOS:

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Re: BUILD: My 1987 "Wagoneer" XJ Limited

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I could use those mj taillights
Unlikely I'll need the set... Someday I'll post them on eBay.
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